It’s Dale Earnhardt and a couple other people

telling them that you can do nothing about it is a pretty bad idea

Again, a military action is not the only possible response. Your “military or nothing” false dichotomy is beginning to grate…

What is it then?

I already told you I don’t know. Luckily, you don’t need to know what DOES work in order to know that a military response categorically DOESN’T WORK unless your aim is to cause MORE terrorism to happen.

Imagine Israel giving aid to Gaza right after Hamas attacked them, LOL

That would actually be a great idea. Would show Palestinians that, unlike Hamas, Israel cares about the innocent civilians caught in the crossfire.

They don’t, of course, but pretending so could have gone a long way towards reconciliation and the erosion of Hamas’ influence in Gaza.

Israel never wanted a stable Gaza

Which is objectively stupid of Israel, unless they have genocidal intentions and don’t care much about innocent lives. Which they’ve of course demonstrated is absolutely the case.

Military action has it’s downsides

Yes, most people would consider “needless deaths of civilians while causing more terrorism” a pretty significant downside.

but the government of any nation would need to do something in a situation like this

Of course, but “something” ≠ military action.

Taking steps in the past to make the situation better in Gaza, and in turn give people less reasons to join and support Hamas would have been be better

Fixed that for you

that ship has sailed

It most certainly has not.

they didn’t want it anyways.

Hamas may not, but the Palestinian civilian population which are the main victims in this most certainly do.

Of course military action is the answer

Gonna have to strenuously disagree with you there. Fighting terrorism militarily has invariably led to MORE terrorism as all the death and destruction makes it that much easier for them to radicalize and recruit the people whose loved ones go from human beings to collateral damage statistics.

I’m not sure I know what IS the best solution, but military action is objectively a not just ineffective but extremely counterproductive “solution”.

Found the shill. I hope AIPAC or whatever other de facto part of the fascist apartheid regime is at least paying you well.

I’d hate for anyone to work that hard at licking fascist boots for free, and every Shekel going to superfluous propagandists like you is a Shekel not going directly to trying to eradicate Palestinians.

The money flows forever as long as you toe the line for Israel no matter what.

And the moment they deem you not deferential enough to the apartheid regime, it flows to your main opponents and ads by AIPAC itself attacking you as an “enemy of Israel” or whatever bullshit they come up with.

This just in: 72% of the senate don’t give a fuck about the lives and human rights of innocent Palestinians, more than half of which are children.

These despicable genocide apologists need to be confronted about it wherever they go. They should not have a moment’s peace until they stop enabling the war crimes of an apartheid regime that brutally terrorizes every man, woman and child in Gaza (and most of those in the West Bank) every moment of every day.

Yeah because slogans always tell the whole story and middle eastern politics never mixes with religion 🙄

Also, even if it IS a group of religious nuts, does that make ALL of them terrorists?

Your anger is futile.

Aww it’s cute that you think your bullshit is crafty enough to rile me up lol. My use of emphatic language is out of bafflement, not anger.

go look it up.

Nope. Not going to spend the time and effort looking up YOUR claim. YOU provide a source or stfu.

Btw, even IF it bizarrely turns out that the notoriously pro-business and anti-consumer conservatives were the ones who came up with it, that doesn’t change the context and meaning which I’m using it.

That’s not what astroturfing is… you should brush up on the term.

I literally defined the term for you. Unlike you, I’m fully aware of what it means. You’re acting like Vizzini from The Princess Bride with his constant misuse of “inconceivable!”

It seems like you’re going through some stuff

If by that you mean “wasting time and effort trying to talk sense into a Dunning Kruger poster boy”, then yeah. I have bad impulse control that sometimes makes me keep answering when bad faith arguing idiots adress me directly even though I know it’s a bad idea.

In conclusion: you started out with nonsense and if anything just got worse from there. Please leave me alone.

So much fucking stereotyping!

Houthis are a mostly political movement and the de facto government of the most populous parts of Yemen.

Saying “our action targets the Houthis and not the people of Yemen” is straight nonsense deliberately designed to paint the chosen government of most of the Yemeni people as identical to small groups of terrorists within the large movement.

It’s straight out of the Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld playbook of manufacturing consent for war crimes.

Quotes conservative media

The fuck I did! Conservatives didn’t coin that nickname, progressives did! Progressives pointing out that he was suspiciously helpful to a major campaign donor to the detriment of regular people.

Since when has Joe Biden been marketed as a grassroots candidate?

Since every time they’ve portrayed him as just a regular middle class man of the people friend of union workers, none of which he actually is.

I’m genuinely worried about your critical thinking skills

Right back at you, shitlib. Have the day you deserve.

Nah, that was SENATOR Mullin on the senate floor having to be talked down by Bernie

Says a lot about the political climate that not only were you able to ever forget about something so bizarre, but it’s actually completely understandable!

I still think you’re a conservative, just the kind that wears a Mao t-shirt instead of a Reagan one.

That would make me a tankie. Tankies are super authoritarian and I’m the opposite. That’s one of the things I dislike about Biden, remember?

I tend to occupy a very wide field between European style Social Democrat to Left Libertarian bordering on anarchism, depending on the specific subject.

Always on the “no such thing as inherent authority” end of the axis where Biden’s at the “cops are great” end, though.

Also go look up what astroturfing means

I’m well aware of campaigns disguising themselves as grassroots when in actuality some very rich people are behind it.

Ironically, every campaign of The Senator From MBNA has been more or less astroturfing.

Good point!

hilariously out of your element

Says the one who calls me a

conservative

Dude, can’t you read? I clearly said that Biden’s the lesser evil by far and that the Trump presidency was a catastrophe.

I’m not calling Biden an evil because I think he’s too far left. I’m calling him an evil because he’s way too far right and way too authoritarian. Dude loves cops and the fascist apartheid state Israel, just like Trump does.

No. I was about to refute their misconceptions point by point but decided it wasn’t worth the effort since we’re ostensibly on the same side and nothing I or anyone else can say would convince them.

Same with you, it seems, so unless you actually have something to add, I suggest you take your conclusion jumping elsewhere.

I agree, but must say I’m pretty disappointed that you didn’t use the time a GOP candidate literally body slammed a reporter and STILL got elected as your example of someone actually getting slammed…

Yup. I’ve mentioned it a couple of times, but most people seem to think or at least pretend that the Houthi terrorists came out of nowhere for no reason and suggesting otherwise gets you downvoted a lot.

You’re discounting the many actual communists that are also actual idiots.

Idiots who truly believe in communism, but also think that the fascist Russian government and the equally repressive Chinese one are that.