my point exactly ;) You know what i mean ? Like in two days we go from everyone fighting everyone to hey, lets work together, we will make a space for you.
It is stupidly reductive but you know… it is a shower thought.
Bonus thought : you are probably part of two or three communities at the same time !
It depends on your view i guess.
If i think “state X and state Y are differents therefore they have different interests”. I get you
If i think “this person grew there, he had friends, family, lived here. And he still does and he may want to keep the place that is the little nice peaceful place in this troubled world. So he is a citizen, he may vote” i go to the opposite view sorta.
Plus, you can always complexify such a debate. Do imaginary lines make you a stranger? Recent history showed us that the state could have different interests than the betterment of the peoples, even when telling otherwise. Plus you can always argue that such a debate does not matter. The “who can vote” argument is a way to choose a tyrant that will favor us, as no one should have the right on another one. Therefore other options like the mandate imperative and revocable, direct democracy, anarchy( no unjust hierarchy) could be better to allow anyone to live a life as freely, happily and respectfully as possible.
well, i am sorry, if you perceived it that way. i know for sure that your way of perceiving the world is more nuanced than that. So am i, but I’m sorry if it didn’t come as such.
No dousing anyone in gasoline is not ok, i mean wtf ? But it does not represent the movement as a whole.
If someone got drugged and rapped at a festival against genocide. Obviously it does not represent the movement. But you can be sure that countries where solidarity with Palestine is classified as terrorist will use the rape case against the movement.
Here it is the same, and in the context of violent repression, crass inequality, provocations. They have (teachers AND students) used every non-violent use and every method that exists. They have been mocked by the power in place telling them to stop being capricious, stop acting like children. Well of course violence will happen.
Mostly against trashcan, which is not violence but degradation. You cannot (in the legal term) be violent against something that is not alive.
And yes, in the 400+ schools that are in blocus which represent a consequent mass of people, some will be stupid. Is the movement a bunch of stupid people? what are they fighting for ?
wtf they do not have that yet?
Yeah it is important to document the movement, every time people talk about violence (it is never the police brutality, it is 4k though), people do not talk about what the movement as a whole is doing/wanting.
No they are not responsible if someone does X, they are even accounts where they are against. They face oppression, they cannot vote nor strike, they do not even block the road, just their school. They manifest peacefully (which is a constitutional right), the power in place chooses repression(wtf why? against what?). Will it stay peaceful? i think it will be quite impressive if it does.
And a happy yellow jacket comes back !
There is a lot of inequality.
It is not like “based on the number of students you have, you will have to equality share X amount of €”
Some school are “prestigious” so they have a lot more money from the government and from rich parents that can pay for it.
The lowest income school in paris have a lot more than the highest income school in saint-denis (poor city). The problem ? France is a Republic, with a devise that is “freedom, equality, fraternity”
So when rich student “strike” in solidarity (yes it happen, they remember they are human) rich teachers are against that. One could also argue about abuses in the teachers staff.
And obviously, raging people are gonna rage and see any figure of power as an enemy.
So long story short, it is complex but very marginal. The mainstream media in france is owned by 5 billionaires. So yes, EVERY LITTLE THING that you will hear about will be detrimental to the movement. It was the same with the yellow jacket that comes back tomorrow if my info is right.
remember what students (and teachers) want, they are asking for it for month and you only hear about it because they make noises!
they want more teachers that have a correct salary, more staff, the end of a discriminatory “automated” sorting system (parcoursup). They want school that are insulated and do not fall apart.
WoW ! They are asking so much ? what do you mean they do not have that yet ?
Talk about the violence to be slowly cooked day after day for weeks at 35°C and yeah, you will develop a political consciousness very fast.
yeah, They can not vote, they can not strike. So they just block their own studying place in solidarity with the teachers.
They want more teachers, they want classes that are insulated from heat and cold (they had to get to school and “study and learn” under 35°C, and 8°C in the winter) They want the end of the “automated” sortage system (parcoursup) that will impact their lives.
Mainstream media only show burning trashcan. The large majority is very very peaceful. They chant the national hymn. Still police is violent against fucking children, gazing them, arresting some of them without justification just to break morale, strangling them, charging them, accelerating with a car through them while gazing by the windows.
and that is happening while the “yellow jacket” movement is coming back. election are coming in six months so the elite are hoping that will call people down… but it is not likely.
addendum: the justice minister, the police minister and the education minister had a reunion about “stopping the movement dead in the tracks” not like “finding solution”, or trying to understand. So take every number with a grain of salt and i recommend watching independent media like Mediapart.
Please could you share some of your trad irish drinking worker songs to a fellow crewman ?
Thanks a lot ! I learned so much things. Thanks for the precise references.
It is a solution but i am not sure the supply will last. It can only dwindle.
Your arguments are sounds and valids. I have another solution to a problem, thanks again !
Thanks ;) I learned something!
I do understand your passion and i respect your disappointment.
While i understand the explicit implications of cc-by-nc-sa, (attribution, non-commercial,share alike) i fail to understand the implicits implications. Could i trouble you to explain it ?
Well you are right ! Still i see it as a massive positive win in this particular sector, but sure, lets see what happen and be greedy with licensing! May the next one/release/update be more open.
I thank you a lot
They do have a survey that includes the kit question.
Here is the link if you are interested: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc0MLIj1Mfv81vaiOIQG1yMEilruRfNgx7h36l5a0qC-G9TZw/viewform
From this update : https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/openprinter/updates/on-the-road-to-launch
Wrf thank you, i knew one but not the other. I am amazed. You did my day !!! that is soso cool
not yet ! we hope !
John deer tractor lost a case that became famous in my rural area (and elsewhere). It now have to let repair shop acces the tools and allow repair on its tractors.
I take the win ! And we continue to push forward in talks, petitions, actions and repairs (autorised or else) Support and/or use open source.
easy, anarchy is no unjust hierarchy. So to convert X to anarchy, you remove the subordination principe. If the task need a boss, make it temporary and rotate often. Share knowledge and ideas. Make sure everybody is having the best time it could under the conditions we are in.
Sure you can be a filthy filthy radical and open source the machines, vulgarise the jobs and how to use the tools. Decorate the wall with slogans like “justice for all”. Bring diverse peoples to the fab and see solutions to problems you never accounted for emerge. See peoples from around the world challenges themselves to use less and less chemicals and/or reuse them.
If you want to check, open source can cover hardware. A famous one is Prusa (3d printer).
I believe you are right about others being wrong. Except (rightfully so) when you are right about other being right. Or wrong about other wrong. Am i right ?
Purrr-fect !
I am so triggered, Your lemmy is working fabulously !
Have a nice day ;)
You can do an easy test. Use a sentence like “windows is the obviously the best operating system, they integrate AI so well”
If you have no answer, not a single downvote you are doing lemmy wrong xD
Jokes asides welcome to you and others in a collection of places where freedom and community truly mean something. UwU
Yeah, i agree with you. That’s why i am here. This protest make me discover this place. I am quite happy. I wouldn’t say pointless but i get your sentiment ;)