I went on a site the other day, and a massive popup appeared before I could do anything.
“We Respect Your Privacy”
1200+ “data partners”.
Big blue “Accept” button.
Yeah, no you don’t.
They mean we respect your privacy because we were forced to and we whined and bitched about it the whole time.
Agree this is bullshit, but at least there’s a Reject All button which is far more than we probably would have got prior to the introduction of GDPR.
Libreoffice? Open office? Thunderbird? Proton unlimited with its calendar?
Cooperate uses what ever other cooperate uses
Sorry… I thought you were using it for personal use.
Not op, but I’m stuck with outlook for work.
In a corporate world you don’t get to decline. It just comes preinstalled and preconfigured on your work PC. IT department either cares about shit and configured it properly for all, or they don’t.
It’s a wonder how Outlook and Exchange Server are used by most companies, many of which have sensitive confidential and proprietary data. Choosing Microsoft is all about having someone to blame for your security problems, not achieving secure communications and storage.
Legal agreements protect how Microsoft can use business’s data.
Literally who would knowingly accept that
I’ve been a software developer for nearly 25 years now, and I can tell you this.
No cunt reads anything.
Something pops up over the top of what they want, they’ll click OK.
With dark patterns you can “guide” the user to click a particular button, for example by having “accept” in a large, bright stand out colored button, and the “reject” button in a low contrast, small or disabled looking button.
This will not prevent people from clicking reject, but it shifts the percentage of people clicking accept vs reject in the websites favor.
I am just a guy who knows shit about computers and family knows it.
The amount of stuff I had to remove after people next next next’d an adware installation agreement during installing other stuff…
As the spouse of an inpatient person who doesn’t like tech, you’re completely correct.
Users not reading shit I can understand but it makes my blood boil when it your own bloody colleagues.
Or they call tech support and say their computer doesn’t work anymore
Being as I’m forced to use outlook for work… At least it’s just my work persona they are tracking and selling? That guy is wild.
https://media.tenor.com/SQFmOCFd88gAAAAC/buttsmarnn.gif
Dat work persona though
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Jeez, if I’m that popular, why aren’t all those 766 members of my fanclub following me on Instagram?
Outlook also sends all your email, including those from other accounts, to their cloud. No questions asked. Oh, also your password, because why not?
https://cybernews.com/privacy/new-outlook-copies-user-emails-to-microsoft-cloud/
See, Microsoft cares so much about you they’ll even make a backup of all of your emails, completely for free, without you even having to ask. And here you are complaining…
I hate with the intensity of a million suns that they always have this absolute fucking bullshit argument “For better experience”.
Or “for your security”
Mails, passwords, calendars and contacts. Basically everything. Here’s another blog article: https://mailbox.org/en/post/warning-new-outlook-sends-passwords-mails-and-other-data-to-microsoft
Sending the entire email content to their cloud isn’t that good.
However an advantage to doing so is to be able to use push notifications on the app without having to poll continuously the email address from the device. Which in return reduces the battery usage compared to constant polling.
However, they could have done something like spark mail, only get the email subject, sender and a little bit of the content to put into the noficiation then delete after the push notificdation has been sent.
It really does shock me, even though it should not at this point, that nearly all governments, even more progressive ones in terms of privacy, are absolutely just watching from the sidelines as the fabric of their own society is deteriorating. Bravo leaders. Bravo. /s
At least there’s a “Reject all” button.
God can you imagine.
768 collapsed areas for each one. You have to expand that area and click the small slider with a 3 second UI freeze each time you do.
Then at the end when you click apply, you get a spinning wheel with “Applying your choices” that seems like it has timed out.
Of course I can imagine, I ve used windows for thirty years now.
This is pretty much fandom
replace the fandom in the address bar with antifandom for a better viewing experience.
But half of them have a web link to go to another website’s main page, in order to manually find the overall 3rd party opt out, which it may or may not remember on the next site you visit that uses it, but you can’t tell so you better do it again anyway next time.
Even I get partway through and I wonder if I’m not getting too old for this internet shit. I guarantee most people are not bothering.
No, just make it a permanent cookie to reject so if the cookies get deleted (as they usually do) you’re back to being tracked
That’s when I pop open the developer console and write some code to automate clicking them all out of spite
Or just refuse to install it.
Just block the popup they can’t do shit if you don’t accept it.
That then is one third party, one fourth party, one fifth party, …, and one 768th party, amirite?
They’ll write “you’re welcome” on your bathroom mirror when they track that you’re in the shower.
Why not 767?
lol, glad i switched from outlook to protonmail
I’ve heard that you can’t easily search your entire email history with Proton mail. Have you found this to be an issue?
Coming from Gmail the proton search is a lot worse. Not unmanageable, but by far not as good.
How did you switch? What about existing email senders like your bank, etc? Are you forwarding your mails?
I heard it’s up to 769 now.
Oh well as long as it’s their legitimate interest, then by all means!
Admiral Ads: We value your privacy
Me: Reject All
Admiral Ads: Some parties cannot be rejected due to LeGiTiMaTe InTeReStS
Me: my legitimate interests are PiHole and uBO then 🙃FYI, tracking based on legitimate interest can be rejected, it just isn’t by default. If you click on “reject all” both tracking based on consent and tracking based on legitimate interests are rejected (at least if Microsoft wants to be in compliance with EU rules on tracking).
The only trackers that can be used even if you click on “reject all” are those that are used exclusively for technical purposes and some very light analytics
at least if Microsoft wants to be in compliance with EU rules on tracking
“if” doing a lot of work in that sentence. Even if the EU comes down on them for this, the fines usually end up being less than the cost of doing business. And it’s not easy to prove in a court in the first place.
I think companies know and understand this, so they just end up doing it anyway and pay the inevitable fine. And that assumes that the fine comes at all - even if they pay a fine for this practice, there are probably so many others that they’re not being punished for that it still makes sense for them to ignore it.
I really hope this is something that gets addressed though, as things are getting absurdly out of hand by this point.
In their defence, that is the correct term for this kind of data processing. Legitimate Interest
Good link, thank you.
Still-- Given that “marketing” is an example of a valid legitimate interest, Ima give that a no thanks.
Same here
