• GutsBerserk@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Oh, the irony. Even the democratic South Korea will act fascist and won’t allow freedom of speech.

    • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      tbf, part of being democratic means your people get to decide for themselves what they will and won’t allow, they have that overriding freedom. We, for instance, could amend our constitution to remove our 1st amendment, if we so wished. It’s a power we have.

      That does not make them militaristic, aggressive, hyper-patriotic states though, which is something different.

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        No. Rights cannot be voted away, they are too important. South Korea is infringing on his right to free speech.

        If the US removed the 1st Amendment, Americans would still have the right to free speech, the government would, however, no longer be honoring the rights of its people.

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          I hear this often, but it’s fundamentally ideological. If the founders wished them to be more permanent, they would have made them so.

          Instead, different people can do things in different ways. And reality, not ideology, can show us what works and what doesn’t. We do not need to force other people to agree with us, we can let them have freedom too. Live and let live.

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          So where do these rights come from, if not the laws? I wonder if you may be taking free speech as a right as a given because of the time you grew up in. You speak of it as an absolute, but where does that belief come from? You say “rights” as if they’re something enshrined in our souls by a god, but like, how do you know that? Where does this information come from?

          This is purely a philosophical question. I’m on the free speech wagon here. But realistically, Who gets to decide what’s actually an inalienable right that everyone has vs. rights that are encoded in laws?

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Easy to say when you’re not in a nation sharing a huge border with an actual fascist state that you’re still at war with

      • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        The article says the poem is about yearning for a united Korea where Koreans don’t have to pay for education and healthcare and aren’t committing suicide over debts.

        Hardly seems worth sending a 68 year old man to jail for over a year.

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          Lee Yoon-seop advocated for unification in his piece that was published in the North’s state media in 2016, South Korean media report.

          He wrote that if the two Koreas were united under Pyongyang’s socialist system, people would get free housing, healthcare and education.

          You omitted the key point here, the poem advocates for all of Korea to be united under the North Korean regime.

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          Personally I don’t agree with the charge but I can understand South Korea for not allowing glorification of the north. Anyone that thinks North Koreans have access to universal healthcare and quality eduction are lying to themselves.