• Sundray@lemmus.org
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    2 months ago

    Good, good – teach the children that authority is bullshit. This kind of thing is more effective than book learnin’.

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    2 months ago

    Is it legal to “verify” my age to be a minor? Would less of my information be collected?

    …not that any of it is accurate anyway.

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    2 months ago

    As I understand it, most adult content producers aren’t actually interested in having minors using their sites. It seems like the easiest thing to do would be to have them add some “Adult Material” flag in their metadata, and let consumers respond as they wish to that tag - whether that’s done through browser settings, router nannyware, or whatever.

    Is there a technical reason this isn’t what’s being pushed for? I’m sure there’s lobbying and “optics” reasons for not doing this, but is there any practical reason for not pursuing this, or something like it?

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      2 months ago

      We already have multiple solutions for blocking children from websites that parents don’t want them to access and the companies providing those situations maintain their own databases of different types of content tagged so that parents can have some control over what is blocked and what is not. This stuff has existed since the 90s it’s nothing new. It requires parents taking the initiative though and really when we get down to it this is another, "but think of the children, " sort of situation where they are using child safety as cover for making it easier to collect biometric data of people online.

      • DireTech@sh.itjust.works
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        The hell are you talking about? Yes there are blocklists for adult domains, but that doesn’t actually block adult content since it leaves stuff like YouTube open. If you think there isn’t full on sex on there then you’ll be surprised.

        The only thing that functions right now is whitelisting and it is super annoying since so many apps open a web container inside the app. All this id verification is nonsense, but providing an actually filtered internet is still nigh impossible for parents who aren’t tech savvy.

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          2 months ago

          Pretty easy solution to that, don’t let your kid have access to youtube without observing what they are watching. If a parent isn’t willing to learn how to setup parental controls and/or web filtering and take the time to observe what their child is consuming then it shouldn’t be shoved onto the government and made a problem for everyone else.

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    Anyone know the best way to fool these age verification tools? I’ve got some Discord servers with channels that are marked as NSFW mainly out of an abundance of caution, despite mainly just being open to rude language. And others where it’s just slightly spicy memes.

    I am old enough, I just don’t want to give my real face or ID to Discord or their chosen third parties. I don’t trust them. Have tried pointing OBS at videos of people staring straight at the screen, but those don’t quite seem to work.

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      2 months ago

      Don’t use discord? Problem solved.

      And I really am serious. We need to move away from platforms we have no control over and contribute to the problem.

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          2 months ago

          So keep fighting the corporate entity and keep making things worse by supporting them?

          I don’t know what else to tell you. You have no control, so you get what you deserve by continuing to use it. And when you continue to use it, it keeps other people thinking they need to use it, and the pain continues. Its a classic it hurts when I do this, so the answer is “stop doing that”.

          Do you really need discord to be your chat server?

          So to actually offer advice if you are determined to have a discord like experience: you could try Fluxer and if they implement the same restrictions you could try self hosting it.

          Editing to add: Fluxer.app as the url.

          • Zagorath@quokk.au
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            2 months ago

            I’ve already moved my gaming group to Matrix. But, and this might shock you, not every server I’m a member of consists entirely of myself and my close friends.

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        2 months ago

        We probably shouldn’t be using Discord but you’ve got to meet people where they’re at. Telling someone to just drop a service when all of their connections are there is unhelpful at best.

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          2 months ago

          What else are you supposed to tell them? Its like an abusive relationship, do we just tell them “oh well” you get something out of it so just stay in it?

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            2 months ago

            I mean if you want to help someone in an abusive relationship, telling them to just leave doesn’t really work there either, and for a lot of the same reasons. But you can support them in other ways until they’re able to do what’s necessary to leave.