• Ahimsa Bjorn@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If presented with a binary choice between minimizing carbon footprint with privacy-evasive EV or sticking with more polluting ICE vehicle and keeping privacy, what would you choose? Which choice is more ethically sound? What is more important between mitigating human-caused climate change or preserving individual human privacy? 🤔

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      I chose buying and maintaining older vehicle because at this point I’m convinced a big part of the issue is not what type of vehicle people drive but the fact that so many people can’t keep one longer than 4 years.

      Friend of mine has bought 5 EV since 2015, that’s not less pollution.

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        Good point. Well-maintained ‘02 Honda CR-V here with 186k miles. I bike to work when weather and climate conditions allow which is most days May–November where I live. We got a second hand Tesla last year because my wife commutes a lot for work. With the latest news, I may try and hold onto the CR-V for even longer than next 2–3 years.

      • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Those cars don’t just disappear into thin air when your friend finishes with them. He’s just making them more affordable and accessible to others.

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      If presented with a binary choice between minimizing carbon footprint with privacy-evasive EV or sticking with more polluting ICE vehicle and keeping privacy, what would you choose?

      Neither. I don’t even have a drivers license and I’m 34 years old. I walk, bike, or take a bus everywhere.

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      1 year ago

      Are we assuming that throwing out an existing petrol car and buying a new EV is a net positive for the environment? How long is it going to take for the pollution created by the material gathering, manufacture, and transport of the new EV to be offset by what you saved in fuel consumption?

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        How long is it going to take for the pollution created by the material gathering, manufacture, and transport of the new EV to be offset by what you saved in fuel consumption?

        ~3.5 years

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      The impact of our cars, though significant, is far outstripped by global shipping (those container ships aren’t carbon-neutral), power generation (EV cars gotta get their power from somewhere), or the simple burning of rain forests to make room for cattle or crops.

      It takes energy to smelt steel and aluminum and build a car, or to mine Rare Earth Minerals needed for the latest tech.

      Driving and old car that you maintain, repair, and keep out of the junkyard is far more environmentally sound. So far. Hoping that balance will change in near decades.

    • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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      It’s a false dichotomy. You don’t need to choose. None of them preserve your privacy.