How many of you dweebs complaining about Apple “constantly changing connectors” and “making you buy proprietary cables” with every new phone realize that they’ve been using the same connector for over a DECADE now? I’m all for reducing e-waste, but come on. If you don’t like their stuff, don’t buy it.
I bought a Samsung. Then I bought a one plus. Then I bought a pixel.
Imagine if I had to throw out my charging cables every time I changed brands. Imagine if everyone acted like Apple. It would be incredibly degenerate.
Also, everyone brings up micro USB, but those cables still find a ton of use in my home for all the different other devices that use it. I’m not gonna find an Xbox controller that uses lightning cables for example.
My argument stands. The companies that don’t conform lose market share, because you don’t buy their products requiring proprietary accessories. Your example list of products exclude an iPhone, so they lost your business. The argument I’m hearing is that you feel the government should force a company to make their product nicer to transition to, or use. That is in the best interest of a company, however Apple has chosen a different path. It’s your job to let them fail or support their choices by giving them money. There are many people that use the Apple ecosystem and don’t really care what connector type is being used.
Every single cable you buy for Apple products is different. Not different from each other, but different from the rest of the smart phone industry.
Does it need to be? No.
Is it to anyone’s benefit? Just Apple’s.
Is it to anyone’s detriment? To the users and the environment.
Exactly. It’s selling that means it works. If you don’t like a brand don’t give them your money. It’s so weird seeing people complain aboout all these huge corporations and capitalism, then buying their products irrespective of whatever business model they opt.
It’s a bit of a different situation with iPhones, where so many people will buy an iPhone just because. It might be that they’re used to iOS, or that they have several other devices in Apple’s ecosystem, it doesn’t change anything: many just don’t question it, they just buy an iPhone.
Did removing the jack from the iPhone make people switch to another brand? Far from it: it gave the Bluetooth audio devices market a boom it would never have had otherwise, despite all the drawbacks of the Bluetooth connection (battery life, shorter lifespan, easier to lose. higher price point, lower quality, higher latency…) And other brands quickly understood, and followed to get their share.
20 years ago, most companies had proprietary connectors, because there was no standard. Then, slowly, they all shifted to USB Micro-B, which was acceptable, but limited charge speeds.
Once USB-C came out, it took a while for everyone to flip over. Heck, you can still find a few devices like headphones and flashlights that use USB Micro-B (or even Mini-B). But they all flipped because the demand was there and the technology standard supported what they needed.
Apple even flipped most of its devices over. They’re just dragging their feet on the iPhone.
The last phone I owned that had a propriety cable, apart from Apple, was a Sony-Ericsson Walkman phone. There was also the Sony Xperia phones, but they had USB as well as their proprietary connector. This was well over a decade ago.
How many of you dweebs complaining about Apple “constantly changing connectors” and “making you buy proprietary cables” with every new phone realize that they’ve been using the same connector for over a DECADE now? I’m all for reducing e-waste, but come on. If you don’t like their stuff, don’t buy it.
I bought a Samsung. Then I bought a one plus. Then I bought a pixel.
Imagine if I had to throw out my charging cables every time I changed brands. Imagine if everyone acted like Apple. It would be incredibly degenerate.
Also, everyone brings up micro USB, but those cables still find a ton of use in my home for all the different other devices that use it. I’m not gonna find an Xbox controller that uses lightning cables for example.
My argument stands. The companies that don’t conform lose market share, because you don’t buy their products requiring proprietary accessories. Your example list of products exclude an iPhone, so they lost your business. The argument I’m hearing is that you feel the government should force a company to make their product nicer to transition to, or use. That is in the best interest of a company, however Apple has chosen a different path. It’s your job to let them fail or support their choices by giving them money. There are many people that use the Apple ecosystem and don’t really care what connector type is being used.
Every single cable you buy for Apple products is different. Not different from each other, but different from the rest of the smart phone industry. Does it need to be? No. Is it to anyone’s benefit? Just Apple’s. Is it to anyone’s detriment? To the users and the environment.
Exactly. It’s selling that means it works. If you don’t like a brand don’t give them your money. It’s so weird seeing people complain aboout all these huge corporations and capitalism, then buying their products irrespective of whatever business model they opt.
It’s a bit of a different situation with iPhones, where so many people will buy an iPhone just because. It might be that they’re used to iOS, or that they have several other devices in Apple’s ecosystem, it doesn’t change anything: many just don’t question it, they just buy an iPhone.
Did removing the jack from the iPhone make people switch to another brand? Far from it: it gave the Bluetooth audio devices market a boom it would never have had otherwise, despite all the drawbacks of the Bluetooth connection (battery life, shorter lifespan, easier to lose. higher price point, lower quality, higher latency…) And other brands quickly understood, and followed to get their share.
“Imagine if everyone acted like Apple” uh. They did until usb c came out.
This is untrue.
20 years ago, most companies had proprietary connectors, because there was no standard. Then, slowly, they all shifted to USB Micro-B, which was acceptable, but limited charge speeds.
Once USB-C came out, it took a while for everyone to flip over. Heck, you can still find a few devices like headphones and flashlights that use USB Micro-B (or even Mini-B). But they all flipped because the demand was there and the technology standard supported what they needed.
Apple even flipped most of its devices over. They’re just dragging their feet on the iPhone.
I love my Logitech keyboard that I bought a couple years ago, but I will always be pissed that it is micro USB and not USB C.
Before USB C, the standard was pretty much Micro USB and before that Mini USB. Only before that, you see tons of weird proprietary connectors.
The last phone I owned that had a propriety cable, apart from Apple, was a Sony-Ericsson Walkman phone. There was also the Sony Xperia phones, but they had USB as well as their proprietary connector. This was well over a decade ago.
So are you just going to ignore micro USB?