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  • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
    161·
    4 hours ago

    I don’t get it, it seems to me that every western government has a hardon for working with Israel inspite of them currently doing a genocide.

    Why?

    I keep coming back to one point that may be the reason, do western governments want intelligence on the middle east that only Israel can provide?

    I am not going to scream that everyone has to love Palestine, but show some fucking decency and stop working with Israel.

    When the october attacks took place, I knew the response was going to be BAD, and for the first 6 months or so I felt that yeah, this is about what I expected, and wasn’t that freaked out (actions have consequences and all of that), but Israel just didn’t stop.

    They. Just. Didn’t. Stop.

    I expected a few months of punishing revenge attacks, followed by negotiations and the release of the hostages for some minor concessions, not a systematic torture and destruction of all human life in a psychotic manner.

    So why are western governments so reluctant to stop working with Israel?

    • andresil@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      30 minutes ago

      My conspiracy theory is that the isreali’s have really bad compromat (or can easily get it) about anyone and everyone so even if you were in favour of stopping support for isreal before you take a position in some government, as soon as you’re in they flip you.

    • treadful@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      4 hours ago

      It blows my mind that this support has existed through every US administration and (I think) UK government. Even with wildcards like Trump, the support is unwavering. There’s no way Trump has the same motivations as Chuchill did.

      Sure, there’s a long history of treaties around Israel but if we wanted out of any of that we could find ways.

      Maybe it’s just a long line of coincidental reasons that lead us to this point and we’re trying to find a nice easy to understand reason that just isn’t there.

    • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      I don’t know about the rest, but I know very well why Greece and Cyprus do: Turkish sabre rattling and occupation. So we think Israel can counterbalance Turkey. It’s a misguided policy for sure, but not unexplainable.

      • Garfunkel@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        1 hour ago

        Cyprus yes, greece not so much. I was in athens 3 weeks ago and the place is filled with palestinian flags. The government has been trying to bridge the gap by hiding information on this from the public, meanwhile it collaborates with Israel to bring in jewish investors for real estate.

        • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          1 hour ago

          I’m talking about the government. The Greek people have a strong anti-imperialist tradition and deep sympathy for the Palestinians. But there is a shift in the more conservative sections who start seeing Israel as a security partner.