• The Baldness@beehaw.org
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    2 years ago

    I’ve been saying this for years, and Democrats will not listen. One way I’ve seen them actually engage with the subject is when I presented “gun control” as being code for saying you’re afraid of black people. When liberals talk about getting guns out of the “inner city” or away from “urban youth” who are they really talking about? They’re afraid of black people. Just like conservatives are.

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      2 years ago

      Do you really see a large number of gun-control-centered liberals talking about getting guns out of the “inner city” or away from “urban youth,” though? Because what I’ve observed is most of the people who are concerned about gun control are trying to get guns out of the hands of largely young white men who shoot up schools, churches, grocery stores etc. I can’t recall the last time I heard someone who identified as left of center complain about “violence in Chicago” — that beat is exclusively on the right.

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        I wouldn’t say the people I’m describing are gun control centered. I’d say they’re urbane liberals in a fishbowl that can’t imagine anyone wanting to live differently than they do. I’d say they’ve never considered themselves to be afraid of “urban youth” in spite of going to great lengths to avoid them. I think my point makes them think a little about gun control being a class issue rather than a safety issue. Ultimately, I fail to change anyone’s mind. They don’t see gun control as a losing issue because it wins inside the fishbowl.

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        It doesn’t matter who they claim the impetus is for their proposals, because too many of the orgs and platforms they use (e.g. Giffords, Everytown) are run by people who very openly say they believe no one should own guns.

        Biden is constantly talking about an assault weapons ban, but if you actually look at his platform, it has expanded that definition to essentially be all semiauto rifles, and is copied directly from Waters’ and Fienstein’s own bills they reintroduce every year.

        Progressives don’t realize that their anti-gun rhetoric is being shaped and championed by a bunch of rich neolib politicians (like “I bought my way into a presidential campaign” Bloomberg, who runs Everytown) who want only the state to have guns.