Sadly need to keep one of those as a back up. I use proton as my main, but I’ve gotten a ton of feedback during my current job hunt that my email is going to spam, so I’ve had to send emails using my outlook backup.
I had a similar issue when I migrated. The thing that worked for me was migrating one account to my new email per day. It makes the whole thing super non intimidating.
I do have a tip for you if you’re migrating anyways. Buy your own domain and use it for your email. That way you’ll never be trapped again.
I’ve never even considered buying my own domain. Would you - or anyone - mind explaining how that works for email? I’m kinda half tech literate. I’m at the level of someone who has Linux on their laptop but has to look up stuff every time they use the console!
But yeah, I’ve been meaning to migrate for years now. Your idea of one account a day makes it seem doable, thanks.
Basicly you buy the domain that you like. Cloudflare sells them at cost. Porkbun has a huge verierty to choose from. After you buy the domain you will have a control panel where you can configure “where” the domain points to.
After you find an email provider that supports custom domains and sign up they will provide you with where to point the MX (email part of the domain) record. Typically some site they control.
In the control panel you point your domain MX records at the address they provide and you can start receiving email at the email of your choice.
After you confirm you can receive email you should then add stuff to your dns control panel like DKIM and SPF so your email won’t be marked as spam. The email provider will give you specific strings to copy paste.
If the email provider starts misbehaving or you just want to switch it’s just a matter of signing up somewhere else and re pointing the domain MX records while you keep the same email. It’s a little more complicated but I means you truly own your email. That and it will typically cost a little bit of money.
I don’t see how Google would willingly get rid of the goodwill and data of normal users like that. Most people don’t know about the sheer site of Googles ad revenue. Also, Google will be the player that shows ads in Google answers, so the moat for ads will become bigger instead of smaller in my mind. Do you have a source on Google ads dying? Last I heard was that it was very profitable for alphabet.
I don’t see how Google would willingly get rid of the goodwill and data of normal users like that.
They don’t give a monkey’s fruity fart about goodwill. They’re rent-seeking oligopolists. They’ll squeeze their users as hard as they think they can get away with.
Eh, probably they will be labeled “too big to fail” and the US government will go into even more money printing to keep them afloat. Making inflation even worse than it is.
I’m not knowledgeable enough to know what the ramifications of Alphabet’s collapse would bring about.
I can only imagine good things, though I know Firefox is propped up by them.
The current regular servers proved capabilities that hyperscalers are selling at a drastic loss, most of which can be done with a build run on your PC.
in order for hyperscale AI to break even, it has to make $6 trillion a year. The ambition was to replace most of the skilled workforce with something cheaper or more productive. (And that also means pushing most of society into ghettos and reservations.)
The other interest was government projects, such as commanding drone armies and processing surveillance data.
Six trillion is an awful lot, and its looking unlikely there’s that much business to go around.
There’s no scenario in which building data centers will make the company stop existing, they can just sell or rent what ai data centers they have and exit the business worst case.
Meh, if it happens to large swathes of Gmail users, and I lose everything in that account, I’d be ok with it. Like who fucking cares, honestly?
Not only would it give me a reason to leave all that bullshit behind forever, since I wasn’t the only one, I’d have a legitimate excuse if I actually lose anything irreplaceable.
Anyone who has a little sense of self responsibility?
even if you don’t care at all about any of your emails in your inbox, all the places you registered an account won’t care at all that you lost your email account. even if they cared, they have no way to verify you actually owned the account you claim to.
Sounds like a good excuse to not need to respond to 80 things. If everyone expects everyone’s email to be destroyed, people will get a fucking break finally.
If you have an outlook or gmail, start migrating off those email services now, before microslop and google evaporate.
It’s gonna happen fast when it happens.
Google and Microsoft are profitable without ai. So I’d assume the bubble popping will not crash them
Maybe they will somewhat crash?
Quite possible, but my bet is that they will buy the winners, just like after dotcom
Ok, but you should still be migrating off of them.
Sadly need to keep one of those as a back up. I use proton as my main, but I’ve gotten a ton of feedback during my current job hunt that my email is going to spam, so I’ve had to send emails using my outlook backup.
I hate this world
Yes, but I don’t see floods of users switching to better privacy options any time soon
I know I should be. It’s a time issue. My gmail address is linked with my entire fuckin life. I guess that’s how they trap you…
I had a similar issue when I migrated. The thing that worked for me was migrating one account to my new email per day. It makes the whole thing super non intimidating.
I do have a tip for you if you’re migrating anyways. Buy your own domain and use it for your email. That way you’ll never be trapped again.
I’ve never even considered buying my own domain. Would you - or anyone - mind explaining how that works for email? I’m kinda half tech literate. I’m at the level of someone who has Linux on their laptop but has to look up stuff every time they use the console!
But yeah, I’ve been meaning to migrate for years now. Your idea of one account a day makes it seem doable, thanks.
Basicly you buy the domain that you like. Cloudflare sells them at cost. Porkbun has a huge verierty to choose from. After you buy the domain you will have a control panel where you can configure “where” the domain points to.
After you find an email provider that supports custom domains and sign up they will provide you with where to point the MX (email part of the domain) record. Typically some site they control.
In the control panel you point your domain MX records at the address they provide and you can start receiving email at the email of your choice.
After you confirm you can receive email you should then add stuff to your dns control panel like DKIM and SPF so your email won’t be marked as spam. The email provider will give you specific strings to copy paste.
If the email provider starts misbehaving or you just want to switch it’s just a matter of signing up somewhere else and re pointing the domain MX records while you keep the same email. It’s a little more complicated but I means you truly own your email. That and it will typically cost a little bit of money.
Thanks. Saving this comment. Don’t understand it all but can research. Might give it a try. Cheers
If you can do stuff in Linux with online help you can do this. You got it. ♥️
are there any domain name registrars that allow prepayment for a decade?
No idea. Probably?
And they’d probably get bailed out at our expense: too big to face consequences.
They don’t pay that much tax to where I am from, so if the US wants to do so, have fun.
Exactly, they are too big to fail like the banks at this point. They provide too many essential services people need.
we need a government with a backbone, one that will tell the companies to fuck off even thought it will hurt all of us.
Not crash them, but they’ll probably need to make Gmail/Outlook into a paid service in order to cover all the costs.
Google Ads is slowly dying, because people just ask AI instead of searching and navigating websites, and that was Google’s biggest revenue.
I don’t see how Google would willingly get rid of the goodwill and data of normal users like that. Most people don’t know about the sheer site of Googles ad revenue. Also, Google will be the player that shows ads in Google answers, so the moat for ads will become bigger instead of smaller in my mind. Do you have a source on Google ads dying? Last I heard was that it was very profitable for alphabet.
They don’t give a monkey’s fruity fart about goodwill. They’re rent-seeking oligopolists. They’ll squeeze their users as hard as they think they can get away with.
Exactly, they don’t care about users, they just care about money.
Examples? See what they’re doing with Gemini. Even Pro (paying) users will be downgraded to Gemini Flash in less than one month.
Eh, probably they will be labeled “too big to fail” and the US government will go into even more money printing to keep them afloat. Making inflation even worse than it is.
I’m not knowledgeable enough to know what the ramifications of Alphabet’s collapse would bring about. I can only imagine good things, though I know Firefox is propped up by them.
well for one, how are you going to recover accounts using your gmail if gmail simply doesn’t exist anymore?
answer: you don’t.
It wouldn’t collapse per se. It would get sold to the next biggest bidder. You’d end up with the likes of Amazon, Microsoft or Musk or something.
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What? No. This is ai data centers new build. Nothing about that would melt their current regular servers.
The current regular servers proved capabilities that hyperscalers are selling at a drastic loss, most of which can be done with a build run on your PC.
in order for hyperscale AI to break even, it has to make $6 trillion a year. The ambition was to replace most of the skilled workforce with something cheaper or more productive. (And that also means pushing most of society into ghettos and reservations.)
The other interest was government projects, such as commanding drone armies and processing surveillance data.
Six trillion is an awful lot, and its looking unlikely there’s that much business to go around.
It’s all just hype, the big numbers were all future spending so they’ll just be dialed down.
That money has to come from somewhere. Ultimately the debt service will hit their opex.
There’s no scenario in which building data centers will make the company stop existing, they can just sell or rent what ai data centers they have and exit the business worst case.
Meh, if it happens to large swathes of Gmail users, and I lose everything in that account, I’d be ok with it. Like who fucking cares, honestly?
Not only would it give me a reason to leave all that bullshit behind forever, since I wasn’t the only one, I’d have a legitimate excuse if I actually lose anything irreplaceable.
Anyone who has a little sense of self responsibility?
even if you don’t care at all about any of your emails in your inbox, all the places you registered an account won’t care at all that you lost your email account. even if they cared, they have no way to verify you actually owned the account you claim to.
Oh no my life will be over 🙄
Sounds like a good excuse to not need to respond to 80 things. If everyone expects everyone’s email to be destroyed, people will get a fucking break finally.
Google is a scourge. So is MS.
I don’t know what you are talking about, I get many mails but I have to respond to very few.
Don’t worry, Google is still just investing barely more than what they have too much quarter over quarter.