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Valve has said from the beginning that the Steam Machine would not have a console price. Did they all miss it?
Your guess is as good as mine. I assumed it would be similarly priced to my pre-built laptop cost, which was around 1300-1400.
I’m mildly surprised it hasn’t rise more in the last 2-3 months, but I assume that’s part of why v/ram is a little on the low side. From my understanding, most of the games that would be playable on it don’t need tons of ram, since they’re better optimized on Linux.
I think it has literally only risen with cost of parts.
It doesn’t even have a pc price. It’s more expensive than diy (or even prebuilt in some cases) and the 2tb ssd is way more expensive that just buying the 512gb model and upgrading it. It also has a lot of proprietary hw. That’s pretty shitty imo. Who’s the target demographic for this?
I don’t know if you’ve seen prices recently but it’s seems pretty on par for a zen 4 CPU, RDNA 3 GPU and 16gb DDR5. SSD prices seem high but apparently the supply’s about to get heavily throttled so it may be accounting for that.
“Accounting for” ssd prices going up before they actually do seems kinda like price gouging. Weird that you would ask if I’ve seen ssd prices when my complaint is that buying a 2tb model is a lot more expensive than just buying a 2tb ssd and upgrading the 512gb model.
Also, watch Gamer Nexus’ video. A comparable pc performs better than this. The steam machine cpu even loses against a ryzen 2600.
That’s not price gouging, I didn’t ask if you’ve seen SSD prices, and no benchmark has it losing against a zen+ CPU that runs a GHz slower. You’re not even being contrarian now, just melodramatic.
They, a supplier that buys in bulk is charging a higher premium for storage than you’d pay if you bough the 512gb model and a 2tb ssd on your own. So yes, it kinda is price gouging.
You literally said “I don’t know if you’ve seen prices recently” and my complaint was about the device price, while also specifically mentioning the price premium for the 2TB model. So yeah, you kinda did ask.
My bad, it didn’t lose to a 2600, it matched it in decompression tests. Source, if you want to confirm it. The most it can do is get close to the 3600, which was released in 2019. If that’s not disappointing, I don’t know what is.
They’re not buying at the prices your local hardware store bought them at though, they’re buying at the future price of hardware when it actually gets built for them. It’s not price gouging.
I talked about SSD prices in an entirely separate sentence, it doesn’t make any contextual sense for you to lump it into the previous statement.
The literal next sentence he says is “but blender put it near the 5600x”. You’re comparing it’s worst performing tasks to general performance.
You are being melodramatic.
That’s really not how pricing works, but ok.
It’s supposedly a pc, not just a console. There’s nothing unfair about the comparison
You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
If you like to fanboy all over Valve so much then go ahead and buy it. Have fun. We’ve literally alredy seen how this plays out. Did you already forget about the og steam machine?
I fear your understanding of context is matched by your understanding of economics if you think your first two claims are true. It’s a PC at a PC price, and your unfamiliarity with the market doesn’t change that.
Melodramatic means exactly what I think it means - I’m saying you’re being overemotional to make a drama out of a non-issue, as backed up by your projective accusations - I don’t want one, I’m not it’s target audience. You, on the other hand, are here raging that it… Costs a normal price for a computer of its specs. It’s obvious this isn’t a real issue, you’re just reactively hating on Valve.
Yeah, that’s not at all what price gouging is
Slightly more, like $70 from what I’ve seen, and that doesn’t take into account the small form factor. The target demographic is fans of Valve with money to burn, and I’m sure there’s enough of those out there to more than buy every unit Valve makes.
While it’s pretty close, the diy route leaves you with a device that can be completely upgraded and that also outperforms the steam machine. The performance sucks bad. In cpu tasks it even loses agains a ryzen 2600 in some cases.
The only reason “valve fans” will probably buy all of the units Valve makes is because they make fre of them, and they’re not available in every country. I have a steam deck, which is supposedly a huge success for valve, and literally everyone that sees it asks what it is.
These are niche products with an even more niche demographic.
I’m not even a hug Valve fan, but happy to support them for all the work they’ve done to bring Linux gaming to the masses. I can play most my games without issue on Debian, happy to keep throwing money at them and kick windows to the curb.
In that case just install Linux on your pc and buy more games. They’re not going to make much money from Steam Machine sales.
Fair point, and I did already switch my main desktop to Linux. That said, its still a positive signal for valve and others that there IS money to be made in the Linux ecosystem. Granted, likely not much, but we can change that if we put our money where our mouth is (those of us who can).
That’s why I boguht a steam deck. The difference, imo, is that the value proposition of the Deck was far better than that of the Machine. The latter is launching with outdated specs, doesn’t really offer something novel and costs way more than it should. Although, to be fair, the current price of the steam deck is also way too high right now. Specially considering how old it is.
This is you ;)
I think you’re looking in the mirror. I regularly go to what’s colloquially known as the “real world” and the vast majority of people don’t even know what a Steam Deck is, and that was a successful and cheaper product for Valve. This thing makes no sense. They kind of got dealt a bad hand due to timing but the machine itself is also kinda crap. 8gb of vram in 2026? Yikes.
It’s a console-like device for people who want the full PC gaming experience without the large PC form factor. It comes with Steam OS preinstalled and 1080p60 on medium settings should be fine for the people who play on the couch with the large TV two to three meters away.
But I guess, it’s mainly sold to tiny form factor fetishists because it’s definitely not cheap, and you probably can just slap Steam OS on a used gaming PC.