11.2 million. That’s the number of American citizens who rank climate change as their top issue but didn’t vote in the 2024 election, according to research by the Environmental Voter Project. For context, Donald Trump won the presidency in 2024 by less than 2.3 million votes. For a little over a decade, EVP has been [...]Read More... from If So Many Americans Care About Climate, Why Don’t They Vote Like It?
Check any political thread here or elsewhere and you will hear a regular refrain of “both parties are the same” and “voting doesn’t matter because it’s all rigged!” A huge percentage of Americans have fallen for that line of bullshit and now don’t bother to vote at all no matter what they think is important. It’s a sad fact that propaganda works.
Yeah, I don’t think that’s obvious at all. Voter turnout has very rarely been a deciding factor in elections, and the current analysis by researchers is that voter turnout doesn’t have partisan benefits. In essence, you get the same politicians regardless of voter turnout.
LOL. You have no idea what accelerationism is if you think that what I said is in any way related to accelerationism. You’re just regurgitating things you’ve heard without understanding. Here, do some reading:
y-yeah? You know he’s not actually on the ballot right?
Unless you seriously believe that a Dem majority in both branches would result in impeachment proceedings which…they had four years to get his ass in jail, I don’t think they’d even be able to remove him in two.
I am begging you people to read up on the terms you use. Youre all just saying shit without understanding it. Accelerationism is not “when someone wants something, anything, to happen faster” you oaf. It is not “someone who wants things to get bad really quickly” either.
It is a specific marxist tendency where those that subscribe to it believe that capital must be nearly completely concentrated in the imperial core in order for the conditions necessary for a successful proletarian revolution to occur. They therefore believe that the faster capital can be accumulated, the faster we can advance. As such they support whomever they consider the most competent administrators of empire. In the US that is, in the eyes of most people, the democratic party. Accelerationists would therefore generally vote for democrats and urge others to do as well.
Learn what the terms you use mean. If you are trying to argue that republicans are more competent administrators of empire and the arguments the person you are responding to follow the line of reasoning of an accelerationist, then you gotta provide arguments to aid your assertions. I might as well call you a republican, its just as logical as your statement.
Seems like the strategy of voting for any politician no matter what their policy has led us to a point where genocide isn’t even on the ballot anymore, so I don’t know about that.
What’s funny is all of the comments that have substantial upvotes and support don’t have those two strawman arguments. I actually have seen anyone claim that the votes are rigged (that would be a MAGA pedophile). And no one has reduced any argument down to “both sides are the same”
Check any political thread here or elsewhere and you will hear a regular refrain of “both parties are the same” and “voting doesn’t matter because it’s all rigged!” A huge percentage of Americans have fallen for that line of bullshit and now don’t bother to vote at all no matter what they think is important. It’s a sad fact that propaganda works.
The problem of low voter turnout precedes the Internet. Low voter turnout is a symptom of the problem, it is not the problem itself.
It’s not simple enough to make that statement. You obviously get worse politicians when people don’t vote.
Yeah, I don’t think that’s obvious at all. Voter turnout has very rarely been a deciding factor in elections, and the current analysis by researchers is that voter turnout doesn’t have partisan benefits. In essence, you get the same politicians regardless of voter turnout.
An absolutely ridiculous thing for you to expect people to believe. So fucking transparent what you’re doing. Accelerationist bullshit.
LOL. You have no idea what accelerationism is if you think that what I said is in any way related to accelerationism. You’re just regurgitating things you’ve heard without understanding. Here, do some reading:
https://www.uniteamerica.org/articles/report-most-americans-votes-dont-matter-in-deciding-elections
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/does-high-voter-turnout-help-one-party
https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/forcing-people-vote-doesnt-change-outcome
Bro, they’ve been told this many times, you think they care about definitions, lol?
Ignore this shit and go vote today.
Gonna write in Hillary (in reality im voting third party)
Questional efficacy, but at least you are going to put in the effort to be heard.
Yup, it’s election season, time for every .ml user to make sure DT stays in office
y-yeah? You know he’s not actually on the ballot right?
Unless you seriously believe that a Dem majority in both branches would result in impeachment proceedings which…they had four years to get his ass in jail, I don’t think they’d even be able to remove him in two.
I am begging you people to read up on the terms you use. Youre all just saying shit without understanding it. Accelerationism is not “when someone wants something, anything, to happen faster” you oaf. It is not “someone who wants things to get bad really quickly” either.
It is a specific marxist tendency where those that subscribe to it believe that capital must be nearly completely concentrated in the imperial core in order for the conditions necessary for a successful proletarian revolution to occur. They therefore believe that the faster capital can be accumulated, the faster we can advance. As such they support whomever they consider the most competent administrators of empire. In the US that is, in the eyes of most people, the democratic party. Accelerationists would therefore generally vote for democrats and urge others to do as well.
Learn what the terms you use mean. If you are trying to argue that republicans are more competent administrators of empire and the arguments the person you are responding to follow the line of reasoning of an accelerationist, then you gotta provide arguments to aid your assertions. I might as well call you a republican, its just as logical as your statement.
It’s a tankie, they’re as bad as MAGA.
I would say they’re worse than maga.
Seems like the strategy of voting for any politician no matter what their policy has led us to a point where genocide isn’t even on the ballot anymore, so I don’t know about that.
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What’s funny is all of the comments that have substantial upvotes and support don’t have those two strawman arguments. I actually have seen anyone claim that the votes are rigged (that would be a MAGA pedophile). And no one has reduced any argument down to “both sides are the same”
A duopoly does not mean both parties are the same
Yep, spot on. And you got downvoted for saying it so we know your comment struck a nerve with someone who says or believes that bullshit.
Either that or y’all just political party fans, who refuse to admit that the usa is public enemy #1 because of your duopoly.
binary thinking is the way! only possibility: party bad or party gud!
Lol this is what you and your shill buddies do!
“If you don’t vote for the anti-facsist party, you’re voting for a fascist”
“Anyone who disagrees with my party is a Russian psyop”
And the “anti-fascist” party is also fascist, just more polite about it
9 day old account says voting doesn’t matter, y’all are cartoons.
Phew, aren’t you lucky my account isn’t 2 days older, you would need help counting that high.
Voting does matter, just not if you are so daft that you keep voting the same aholes in regardless of how they perform.
If you wanted to know who it was, here ya go:
That’s not Americans. There’s a fuck ton of psyop propaganda here.