Edit: thanks to sik0fewl for archive link: https://archive.is/20230809211356/https://www.racket.news/p/campaign-2024-not-left-versus-right
Video interview on subject:
Matt Taibbi " It’s Not LEFT vs. RIGHT" (Interview Clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaBGfzW1RM
That is left vs right.
Both parties are for the wealthy.
Blues and reds are not for the working people.
Unless those working people happen to be LGBTQ. Then red and blue does matter.
Same goes for: The educated. Brown folks. Black folks. Women. Post-birth children.
Huh… Turns out that both sides are not the same after all.
Both sides are not the same, but one side promoted financially and otherwise the most extreme elements of the other side which are against the interests of LGBTQ people, Brown folks, Black folks, Women, Post-birth children, and most others in the country. Hillary Clinton’s campaign heavily promoted Trump’s campaign in the primary using the “pied piper” strategy while he was re-introducing open bigotry to mainstream politics. What pisses me off the most about it is that it absolutely worked in the long run even though Clinton didn’t win the electoral collage. We have to vote “blue no matter who” even though their leadership are not serious about fixing any fundamental issues because they made sure the other side will kill us. Not all Democrats of course; many in Congress and throughout the states are legitimately trying in meaningful ways, but the top of the dnc establishment is utterly rotten.
Exactly. Right supports the affluent, Left supports everyone else. Blue and Red is a false dichotomy since one is all Right and the other is mostly Right. I would like to see Blue as the furthest right position acceptable in American politics one day. Until then one major party has a minority of leftwingers and the average person domestically and abroad does not have their interests represented federally when they are opposed to the interests of the affluent.
This is exactly it. We don’t have a left wing party in this country. We have a right wing party and a far-right wing party. The right wing party sucks but the far-right wing party is doing a lot of things that look really suspiciously like they’re trying to install a dictatorship.
It seems to me those are just groups to divide the working people, instead of coming together under an worker class umbrella to fight against the elite and wealthy class.
Right also support the effluent
This actually made me laugh. Thanks.
Then neither of them is left.
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Not even close. Both major parties have billionaires in them.
The Dems contain people on the left and have a handful of them in Congress, but I wouldn’t call them a left wing party who supports the interests of regular people when they are at odds with the interests of the affluent. There is no left wing major party.
I feel that’s correct but everything is a spectrum. It’s not a binary state. In a world of extremist right and center, the center looks left. Especially since each party is a mix of the spectrum. Each person is a mix of the spectrum made by each issue stance.
That said, I feel like you are then correct, there is no “everyone else”. There is little chance of getting that option in our politics any time soon. We need widespread non-FPTP voting. We need more minority party representation.