Dozens of public housing apartments will get plug-in induction ranges as part of the initiative, which aims to eventually shift 10,000 NYCHA homes off the use of polluting fossil fuel appliances.
This is important for those replacing gas or propane stoves and don’t want to add the cost of running a 240V line that most resistance and induction ovens require.
OK this makes sense. It answers my WTF reaction at the thought of a battery-backed range.
For real? In Europe one can get induction for less than €200. Significantly less. And a “real”, full size one, 4 spots.
And adding an oven adds additional €200.
For comparison, in Australia, gas and induction are at price parity (a budget 4-hotplate setup costs about $200-300 either way). You can buy a single-plate induction cooker for $50 that plugs into the wall and has a temperature configurable from 60-200 C.
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What makes it seem convoluted? It’s slightly more complex than a standard electric stove, but we have and use countless devices on a daily basis with this technology. Very rarely do they have any issues with the charging/discharge circuit.
Yes, the batteries will eventually need to be replaced, and it could be an issue during Thanksgiving (etc) when a ton of power is needed all at once. But I really think you’re overestimating the usage it will get.
In any event, this is why they’re running it as a pilot. Any real-world issues will come to light before a larger rollout.
The winning submission came from Copper, a California-based company which designed a battery-equipped induction stove that plugs into a standard 120-volt outlet. That means the units can be used in existing NYCHA kitchens without the need for major electrical upgrades.
Still sounds easier than fixing old gas plumbing, and again, the current is lower so the wires are not thicker they’re thinner.
And I’m certainly not keen on running a big battery that will be next to heat and needs replacement approved by landlord every 3-5 years, plus having to own expensive pans.
What do I know, I never owned electric stove and I don’t want one.
OK this makes sense. It answers my WTF reaction at the thought of a battery-backed range.
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For real? In Europe one can get induction for less than €200. Significantly less. And a “real”, full size one, 4 spots. And adding an oven adds additional €200.
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You’re right, I’ve updated my post.
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For comparison, in Australia, gas and induction are at price parity (a budget 4-hotplate setup costs about $200-300 either way). You can buy a single-plate induction cooker for $50 that plugs into the wall and has a temperature configurable from 60-200 C.
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PS: Also, electricity is cheaper than gas in Australia, because we have so much rooftop solar, electricity is soon going to be free during the midday peak.
I got one for 35€
I also see those batteries going bad and complications in the future with such a complicated system rather than a dedicated 240v circuit.
What makes it seem convoluted? It’s slightly more complex than a standard electric stove, but we have and use countless devices on a daily basis with this technology. Very rarely do they have any issues with the charging/discharge circuit.
Yes, the batteries will eventually need to be replaced, and it could be an issue during Thanksgiving (etc) when a ton of power is needed all at once. But I really think you’re overestimating the usage it will get.
In any event, this is why they’re running it as a pilot. Any real-world issues will come to light before a larger rollout.
Has the text changed? I can’t find any reference to 240v
I think this is the new section?
Ditto. I wonder if it could be more of a big capacitor, or if it is.
Seems to be LFP pack. Safe and long-lasting.
What’s so hard about 240v since it takes a thinner wire compared to 110v?
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Still sounds easier than fixing old gas plumbing, and again, the current is lower so the wires are not thicker they’re thinner.
And I’m certainly not keen on running a big battery that will be next to heat and needs replacement approved by landlord every 3-5 years, plus having to own expensive pans.
What do I know, I never owned electric stove and I don’t want one.
For new construction, nothing.
For existing construction, it requires you to run a new circuit.
Not sure but maybe, thicker insulation?