TLDR: they’re both bad, but it might be interesting to know what each one does
The thing with teams is that they had it pretty much nailed ~2 years ago, but decided to keep going.
Security aside (because that’s my employers problem), Teams is just aweful.
The UX is all over the place, likely because of the feature creep forcing a lot of dev departments to collaborate.
It just does too much. I don’t need an all on one solution, I need a communication tool.
The chat looks like WhatsApp, not like a proper professional comms channel. Maybe there’s a setting buried somewhere.
The meetings are more miss than hit. For every working meeting I have 5 meetings where something doesn’t work. Multiple retries to join; or it picks the wrong mic, speaker and/or camera; or chat within the meeting doesn’t work for some participants so they can’t share or see links; video streams being disconnected and reconnected depending on who currently speaks (which looks extremels annoying); and probably a ton more I zoned out).
Slack on the other hand mostly just works. As a chat tool. What it is supposed to be.
The UX is all over the place, likely because of the feature creep forcing a lot of dev departments to collaborate.
“I created a spreadsheet with that info.”
“where is it?”
“It’s in my ‘recently used files’ in teams…”
“Yes but where can I share that document?”
“I think it’s in my OneDrive? I don’t see it there.”
“Let me check Sharepoint - I don’t see it there…”
“I’ll just email you a screenshot.”
I had the displeasure of managing Teams for an IT client of mine, and to say it’s a clusterfuck is putting it charitably.
It is almost impossible to change the user. A basic, rudimentary function that should be a simple matter of signing out and signing back in. Nope, doesn’t work. You have to reinstall Teams to get that working.
Oh, and reinstalling is an ordeal itself. That usually doesn’t work, either. You have to manually delete the installation directory and app data cache, and for whatever dumbshit reason, it doesn’t install to program files, it installs to some obscure directory in the user profile.
God help you if you rename a user. It retains the old user details until you sign out.
Trying to share a link to join a team never works.
These are just off the top of my head and I don’t want to continue because it’s stressing me out.
Fuck Teams.
As much as a lot of that hate it warranted, I’d say the install location isn’t so much a Teams issue as it is a Windows issue and how it handles user-level vs system-level installs. Obviously still a Microsoft problem, but important to note.
Obviously still a Microsoft problem, but important to note
You’d think Microsoft software would work optimally on a Microsoft operating system, but, quite often, it operates in the shittiest, kludgiest ways.
Yeah at some point you could just use discord wich actually works…
Does it matter in a work setting? Not like you get to choose what your company uses, and furthermore, it’s work stuff, not going to have any personal stuff on there anyway.
Exactly, assume your employer can see everything you do on the company network, software, and devices. If your employer regularly checks on employees this way (that is excepting extraordinary circumstances) and uses it against employees this is an indication that they are a bad employer and you should find one that trusts their employees unless proven otherwise.
The relevant bit is probably just reiterating that your employer can see what you do on work related things, so continue to behave like you are at work
If you CAN influence the decision of what to use, then I guess it might be helpful to know the specifics
Teams is a slow, buggy, annoying pile of shit, just like all microshit software
Indeed, but it’s included with Office 365 and there’s a handy join button within Outlook that keeps me coming back for more.
Slack makes it easy for employers to read your private messages, but Microsoft Teams takes employee surveillance to the next level. Teams offers employers easy access to stats about what you’re doing on the platform via its user activity reports dashboard. The dashboard shows how much time you spend messaging others, participating in calls and even how much you’re screen-sharing. Invasive!
You should be wary of both Slack and Microsoft Teams but Teams is teeming with privacy worries for the average employee. Work wisely.
At the enterprise level with teams you can bring your own key. If you want to remove MS’s access to your data you just remove the key and it’s effectively gone.
Does slack have something like this?
None, use zulip or matrix
