Only a healthy diet of imperial core
propagandamedia could bring you to this analogy.
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
- Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
- Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
- NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
NATO expansion:
- George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
- Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
- Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
- Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
- Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine
NATO in general:- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
- Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?
In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.
Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.
Yeah, I don’t love the Russian government but I still believe it’s cowardly that the only way liberals can vilify Russia is by having the memory of a goldfish and being obtuse about geopolitics, the wars with Ukraine were completely avoidable and so was the ethnic cleansing of Russian Ukrainians, and by ignoring that regular Ukrainians themselves want to end the war. It’s particularly frustrating that they pretend Russia is the most villanous nation, too, as if the US wasn’t orders of magnitude worse and for a far longer span of time, including regime changes, invasions and sanctions that killed millions of people and impoverished so many more, and as if the US had no responsibility for the proxy war in Ukraine or the extremely cruel shock therapy all over former socialist states.
That they were already BlueAnon-pilled by Maddow & friends before the war started sure hasn’t helped.
- IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Matt Taibbi: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud
- Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty
- Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe.
The difference is that Vietnam was fighting against colonialism and to establish socialism, while Ukraine is being harvested for resources by the west and is used as a battering ram against geopolitical adversaries of the west, including by arming and empowering neo-Nazis against those in the Donbass region. This is just metaphysics, thinking you can take a very specific set of circumstances out of its necessary context and dogmatically apply it to every circumstance.
One would have to be american to think being a leftist means wanting for an authoritarian leader to tell people to not help an invaded country defend itself, when far-right authoritarian Trump has litteraly campained on cutting aid to Ukraine.
Americans should just shut the fuck up about politics, actually. You’re the most propagandized and alienated people in the world, you have no right to talk about politics. You didn’t even have a Left until DSA got popular, and for that you had to inflict yourselves AND THE WORLD your fascist cunt president for 8 years. That’s how stupid you all are, you’ll destroy everything to begin to understand that everything shouldn’t have been destroyed, and the most pathetic thing about americans rekindling fascism is that they’ve done it because their males felt insecure against the right of others (women, LGBT+, PoC, handicaped) to simply exist. That’s how stupid and weak america is. Your country is a curse upon mankind.
So, if you’re not the one pulling the trigger on your fat hitler president, just shut the fuck up.
Of course it’s that wanker PugJesus
I’d love for you to explain how domestically produced vietnamese resistance to French, Japanese, and American imperialism is materially the same as western powers fighting a proxy war with Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives.
Would also love to hear the political analysis that led you to believing Russia is distinctly fascist rather than capitalist.
So Vietnam wasn’t a proxy war?
Not in the way the war in Ukraine is
Please, by all means elaborate.
They were both proxy wars. But what were they fighting for? In the cold war, usa wanted vietnam to remain a colony to extract profits, but ussr wanted an ally in the region instead. nowadays usa want ukraine to become a vassal state to destabilize its geopolitical adversaries in the region, specifically russia, much like israel is used against many middle eastern nations. russia has no virtuous intention other than self preservation, and they are not a superpower anymore, so they used the tools they had which was a military operation to disarm ukraine.
The USA, along with the rest of NATO, wants Ukraine to remain independent, and not fall into Russian hands.
Remember, the US is just one nation providing military aid to Ukraine. Even Australia and New Zealand are contributing.
The USA, along with the rest of NATO, wants Ukraine to remain independent
Lmao
Remember, the US is just one nation providing military aid to Ukraine.
Mark Rutte leader of NATO said it himself that NATO is just means for the US to project power.
Even Australia
Even “CIA Base pretending to be a country” is contributing. They literally disappeared a PM for not being thankful enough for pine gap.
The entire west is using Ukraine as a battering ram to damage geopolitical enemies, while harvesting it for rare Earths and resources, saddling it with debt and disrupting peace talks. The west has no virtuous intent here.
And you think Russia had virtuous intent helping Vietnam?
The USA, along with the rest of NATO, wants Ukraine to remain independent,
That must be why they did that coup, because of how much they value Ukraine’s independence
Listen, I’m not answering you rn because you sound super fucking smug and it’s annoying. Also you haven’t actually offered a detailed opinion of your own and it sounds like you are just waiting for me to give mine so you can criticize it instead of offering something of substance yourself. Answer my original question and I’ll back to you when I’m sober and it isn’t a few past midnight.Your original question asks me to refute an unfounded claim you’ve made based on no evidence whatsoever, just what you want to believe is true.
And I’m not playing that silly game.
I was giving you my personal perspective and asking that you develop yours beyond the meme. I am genuinely curious why you think this way.
