• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      I disagree, there just needs to be balance. Business can have the Republicans, that’s fine, it’s all they’re good for anyway.

      The problem is that they got greedy and took over both parties, so now working people have no representation.

    • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      At this point fuck ranked choice, 3rd party 100%. Anyone considering a vote for either right wing party is an idiot that’s not paying attention

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        10 months ago

        dude, ranked choice is the only way were ever going to get conservatives to even consider not voting straight R. its to help those that need help… among other benefits

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          As long as it includes the duopoly on it, it’s not going to make any damn difference. Voters need to come off supporting duopoly like crackheads need to come off crack, they claim to want to but never do

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              10 months ago

              There has been no good when your guy is supporting funding and condoning genocide. There is no good when income inequality is at a record level. There is no good when homelessness is at a record level. There is no good when auto repossessions are at a record level. There is no good when 65% of people are living paycheck to paycheck. And there is no good when they keep lying about the condition of the economy when we can see firsthand that things are not good. There is no good when other countries like China, Russia and Mexico had positive wage growth last year and the US retracted

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            10 months ago

            No one supports the 2 party system. We are unfortunately stuck with it until we actually rework our entire voting process. That requires a functioning congress and judiciary in which we don’t have.

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          10 months ago

          And when it does finally get on the ballot either the DNC sues to keep it from being enacted or they soon to keep it off of the ballot

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          10 months ago

          I know exactly what I’m saying, fucking liberals keep expecting different results by supporting the same people. All the while they’re party keeps moving further and further to the right

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            10 months ago

            Do both. Ranked Choice Voting and more parties work together just fine. Represent Us

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        10 months ago

        This poster is a troll/bot who is only looking to sow disinformation among Democratic voters.

        Every single one of their posts is seeking to undermine confidence of the left and not one criticises the right, while pretending to hate both sides.

        They offer no actual solutions other than voting “third party” which obviously is a veiled attempt to boost conservatives at the ballot box.

        Just block and move on.

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          10 months ago

          Republicans dont pretend to care like Dems do. BlueMAGA fails to hold their own policies accountable while demanding everyone else do. If your candidate is so weak that valid criticisms could cause harm then they don’t deserve to be elected. They spew the same regurgitated bullshit about how great things are while ignoring things are not great.

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            Again I will point out that this poster isn’t actually arguing in good faith and isn’t offering any actual solutions other than “don’t vote” or “vote third party.” Which obviously leads to a positive outcome for conservatives.

            Don’t fall into their trap. Learn to identify these patterns and talking points because they will keep coming under different usernames with increasing fervor over the coming months.

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        Ranked choice voting would allow political space for a 3rd party. It would also curtail the radical sides of the current political system.

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        Did we not fucking learn anything from 2016. How many women need to die from ectopic pregnancies before we realize that was a goddamn disaster. Vote blue and push the country back to the left. Stop enabling the conservatives

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          Democrats dont care about women’s rights anymore than the GOP, if they did they would have modified like they’ve promised for 50 years. Their inaction is what’s caused women to lose their rights

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            Lmao how ignorant. When was the last time the U.S. Senate was so overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats? Do you honestly not know anything about US civics? Obama didn’t have 60 votes to enact his version of healthcare reform without major concessions that inevitably lead to Republicans criticizing it as failed legislation when THEY WERE THE ONES WHO ARE MOSTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR DESTROYING IT.

            Show me a pathway to 60 votes that Democrats had in any year starting from 1971. There isn’t one. And it’s because conservatives show up to vote and pissant commies like yourself can’t seem to understand the very basics of how our government functions and why it is the way that it is. It’s not because of liberals. It’s because of decades and decades of conservatives obstructing any meaningful reforms.

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              I got my fallopian tubes removed for free after the Roe reversal because of Obamacare rules on reproductive healthcare, I think that’s pretty damn good given what went down those 8 years

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    10 months ago

    Article dated four years ago…? That’s pretty dishonest. I’m sure we do have plenty of big money inter-twined with the DNC, and this is a good publication, but a more recent article would be a little less … blatantly propagandistic.

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        Regardless, if we don’t begin our political discussions with honesty, we don’t deserve to even have them. That’s just another form of wielding undeserved power to pursue personal goals.

        You don’t have to be a fascist to be power hungry.

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          Could it be fresher? Sure wouldn’t hurt.

          Does it make any difference that it’s only 4 years old? No.

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            No, it very much matters. It could be worse, it could be better. But one thing is certain is that OP is willing to misinform. News is rightfully expected to be recent.

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              So in your little fantasy land, every study or investigation past, what, 3 years should be thrown out as useless?

              What’s next we can’t point to something Trump said or did 4 years ago today?

              OP has not misinformed anyone, you’re just being hyper-critical.

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                Two-thirds of DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee members are corporate lobbyists or corporate consultants

                The operative verb is “are”, which is present tense. Can you verify, with sources, that “two-thirds of DNC rules and bylaws committee members are corporate lobbyists or corporate consultants” at this very moment? Or was that true 4 years ago, and we have no idea whether it’s still true today?

                Facts matter, and truth matters. If you’re taking the position that only the appearance of truth is sufficient, then you’re no better than the walking word vomit himself.

                Here’s you 52 minutes ago: “it sounds plausible and logical, but that doesn’t actually translate to being true.”

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                  Of the 16 members listed in the original Sludge report, 9 of them are still actively serving on the RBC. [1].

                  1. James Roosevelt III - yes
                  2. Harold Ickes - yes
                  3. Barry J. Goodman - No (Considered an important donor still as per 2023 news article hoping Trump runs, also has plead guilty on multiple account of fraud in 2005) [3]
                  4. Michael Nutter- No
                  5. Alexandra Rooker - No (Is Chair of the California Democratic Party)
                  6. Jeff Berman - No (is now a Member for Unity Reform Commission)
                  7. Maria Cardona - Yes
                  8. Donald Lionel Fowler - Yes (His wife has now joint him on the committee) [2]
                  9. Dennis Speight - No
                  10. Kathleen Sullivan - No
                  11. Donna Brazile - Yes
                  12. Scott Brennan - Yes
                  13. Rev. Leah Daughtry - Yes
                  14. Christopher Lu - No (On April 27, 2021, President Joe Biden nominated Lu to serve as Permanent Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations for UN Management and Reform)
                  15. Frank Leone - Yes
                  16. David T. McDonald - Yes

                  Now seeing as you have so much freetime to lurk my profile in an attempt to discredit me, maybe you can better spend your time researching the other members currently sitting on the committee, because as I’ve now shown at least half of those names are still serving in their role, while others have been moved into other positions of power. Some I could not track down, so I was not able to verify their current status.

                  [1] https://www.c-span.org/search/?searchtype=People&sort=Best+Match&addedterm%5B%5D=bylaws&sponsorid%5B%5D=5892

                  [2] https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/meet-the-fowlers-longtime-sc-democratic-power-couple-hosts-2020-candidates/article_66841624-44d8-11e9-8639-079eb03894c9.html

                  [3] https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr-19386


                  I’m an Australian, I should not be the one here spending their free time looking into your democracy to hold it accountable. This is your civic responsibility to inform yourself.

              • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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                So, imagine some idealistic leftist reads this, then has a conversation with their mainstream dem parents about politics. They passionately quote the information from this article, not realizing it is out-of-date. Their parents, quickly checking for themselves, see that our young idealist is just completely full of shit, the information they gave is simply incorrect.

                Does this help or hurt the leftist cause?

                Real life is hard, I’m afraid. It’s full of traps and nuance that you can’t just paper over with emotion and faith. This is why being honest and up-front encourages a healthier and more effective resistance.

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        There were some real efforts to elect a lot of non-corporate types to county parties, state parties, and ultimately the DNC.

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    Hey folks, polite reminder that YOU (yes you!) can be on the DNC instead. If this headline upsets you, ask- why are you not on the rules & bylaws committee of your local Dems chapter?

    People get upset at the DNC as if it’s some mystical wizard that exists in a different dimension. BRO, what are you doing right now to get involved in the DNC you have such strong opinions about?

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    This country was bought and sold a while ago. It’s only going to get worse during my lifetime. But I’m still going to try to improve things in the small ways I know how.

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    My state sent out official voter guides for the primary which I find to be totally inappropriate since the DNC and RNC are not a formal part of the political structure of the country and are not themselves organized democratically by any means.