Building a gas pipeline from the vast Bovanenkovo and Kharasavey gas fields of northern Russia across the wilderness of Siberia to Mongolia and then to China would be the world’s biggest and most capital-intensive gas project, Miller said.
am i the only one who now expects the united states to regime change mongolia now?
At this point the US has very little influence there. It’s important to keep in mind that you can’t just do a regime change whenever you feel like it. The material and social conditions that facilitate regime change must be in place first. This is why the US relies so heavily on sanctions and NGOs to shape the country in a way that would allow installing a puppet regime. They attack the economy drive down the standard of living for the people, and then promote US friendly politics by funnelling billions to pro western media orgs. This sets the stage for eventual political capture.
Very unlikely. They can try to increase funding to NGOs and influence the outcome of the next elections maybe, but realistically they are quite limited in what they can do there. The country is just too closely tied culturally and historically to Russia and China, its only neighbors. And with no access to the sea it would be suicide for Mongolia to alienate both of them. Not to mention that the amount of economic influence that Russia and China can exert there if they really want to is always going to be greater than what the US can do, simply due to geography. Mongolia is a perfect buffer state for both Russia and China and it’s in both their interests to maintain good relations.
There is also the problem that Mongolia has a fairly western style liberal political system which makes it hard for the West’s propaganda machine to find something to demonize and rile people up against. No major ethnic or religious conflicts to exploit either and very little historical grievances, and no big diaspora in the West which could be radicalized and sent back as a fifth column.
ukraine also had significant cultural and historical ties with russia and belarus and it was in their interest to maintain friendly relations with them as well; give it time along with an unlimited budget from the US empire.
The US and UK spent decades preparing the ground in Ukraine. Since the end of WWII they were involved in funding the stay-behind Nazi insurgency, then incubating the current incarnation of Ukrainian nationalism in the diaspora in the US and Canada since the 80s, then taking advantage of the chaos of the dissolution of the USSR in the 90s to infiltrate these groups into Ukraine and slowly push them to the forefront over two decades by indoctrinating the youth. It took them two separate color revolutions to do it.
And they didn’t start from nothing. Before WWII, the Germans, and before them the Austrians, had been building the Ukrainian nationalist idea in West Ukraine as a foil first against the Russian Empire then against the USSR. It took the West over a hundred years to turn Ukrainians against their own brothers, and they only managed to do it because of pre-existing ethnic divisions and because of unique historical and geographical conditions.
They could dangle the EU carrot to seduce them, they could funnel money and infiltrate weapons and radicalized extremists via the land border. Those conditions just don’t exist in Mongolia. Everything would have to come either through Russia or China or be flown in. What can the US possibly offer Mongolia? What ethnic tension or history of radicalism is there for them to exploit? Can this country survive if it antagonizes its neighbors?
Look at the demographics and economy: Mongolia has only 3.5 million people (for comparison that is less than Georgia, which once picked a fight with Russia and lost the war in 7 days). Half of them live in the capital. For the rest of the country the population density is extremely low. At least a third live as nomads or semi-nomads.
90% of their exports go to China. 80% of their exports come from the mining sector. They do not have a large and advanced industrial manufacturing sector as Ukraine once did. Most of their energy comes from Russia. Unlike Ukraine they have neither ports nor land border with Western powers through which to import substitutes for Russian energy.
Most of the country is steppe or desert. The conditions for cultivation are not great, so their agriculture sector consists mostly of livestock and herding. Hence the country depends on food imports. Even if a very pro-Western government is in power, they have no choice but to maintain decent relations with their neighbors.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking, as the neocons do, that the US is all-powerful and has unlimited resources. They don’t. There are very real limits on their power and those limits are growing as their relative power in the world declines, especially compared to China.
am i the only one who now expects the united states to regime change mongolia now?
At this point the US has very little influence there. It’s important to keep in mind that you can’t just do a regime change whenever you feel like it. The material and social conditions that facilitate regime change must be in place first. This is why the US relies so heavily on sanctions and NGOs to shape the country in a way that would allow installing a puppet regime. They attack the economy drive down the standard of living for the people, and then promote US friendly politics by funnelling billions to pro western media orgs. This sets the stage for eventual political capture.
is mongolia not already there?
Their economic situation is pretty stable. They’re a vital hub between Russia and China, so a lot trade goes through there along with resource development. https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2025/05/23/world-bank-mining-and-agricultural-recovery-drive-mongolia-s-economic-growth
you’re going to learn about entire new ethnicities and religions that are under threat of imminent see see pee pee genocide
Free Mongolia!
it’s weegurs all over again, but atleast it’s not the same thing as the tinyman square this time. lol
Very unlikely. They can try to increase funding to NGOs and influence the outcome of the next elections maybe, but realistically they are quite limited in what they can do there. The country is just too closely tied culturally and historically to Russia and China, its only neighbors. And with no access to the sea it would be suicide for Mongolia to alienate both of them. Not to mention that the amount of economic influence that Russia and China can exert there if they really want to is always going to be greater than what the US can do, simply due to geography. Mongolia is a perfect buffer state for both Russia and China and it’s in both their interests to maintain good relations.
There is also the problem that Mongolia has a fairly western style liberal political system which makes it hard for the West’s propaganda machine to find something to demonize and rile people up against. No major ethnic or religious conflicts to exploit either and very little historical grievances, and no big diaspora in the West which could be radicalized and sent back as a fifth column.
ukraine also had significant cultural and historical ties with russia and belarus and it was in their interest to maintain friendly relations with them as well; give it time along with an unlimited budget from the US empire.
The US and UK spent decades preparing the ground in Ukraine. Since the end of WWII they were involved in funding the stay-behind Nazi insurgency, then incubating the current incarnation of Ukrainian nationalism in the diaspora in the US and Canada since the 80s, then taking advantage of the chaos of the dissolution of the USSR in the 90s to infiltrate these groups into Ukraine and slowly push them to the forefront over two decades by indoctrinating the youth. It took them two separate color revolutions to do it.
And they didn’t start from nothing. Before WWII, the Germans, and before them the Austrians, had been building the Ukrainian nationalist idea in West Ukraine as a foil first against the Russian Empire then against the USSR. It took the West over a hundred years to turn Ukrainians against their own brothers, and they only managed to do it because of pre-existing ethnic divisions and because of unique historical and geographical conditions.
They could dangle the EU carrot to seduce them, they could funnel money and infiltrate weapons and radicalized extremists via the land border. Those conditions just don’t exist in Mongolia. Everything would have to come either through Russia or China or be flown in. What can the US possibly offer Mongolia? What ethnic tension or history of radicalism is there for them to exploit? Can this country survive if it antagonizes its neighbors?
Look at the demographics and economy: Mongolia has only 3.5 million people (for comparison that is less than Georgia, which once picked a fight with Russia and lost the war in 7 days). Half of them live in the capital. For the rest of the country the population density is extremely low. At least a third live as nomads or semi-nomads.
90% of their exports go to China. 80% of their exports come from the mining sector. They do not have a large and advanced industrial manufacturing sector as Ukraine once did. Most of their energy comes from Russia. Unlike Ukraine they have neither ports nor land border with Western powers through which to import substitutes for Russian energy.
Most of the country is steppe or desert. The conditions for cultivation are not great, so their agriculture sector consists mostly of livestock and herding. Hence the country depends on food imports. Even if a very pro-Western government is in power, they have no choice but to maintain decent relations with their neighbors.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking, as the neocons do, that the US is all-powerful and has unlimited resources. They don’t. There are very real limits on their power and those limits are growing as their relative power in the world declines, especially compared to China.