Ugh. Roku was one of the platforms with fewer ads.

  • Roku will be adding more ads to the home screens of its devices and TVs in the near future.
  • The ads will be interactive and ‘shoppable’ and will cover a range of industries, including restaurants and cars.
  • Roku already has a significant amount of ads on its home screen, and it is unclear if users will be able to change their preferences for the new ads.
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    10 months ago

    After all the issues with software updates, ads, and just overall terrible experience of TV operating systems and those little media boxes, I just finally accepted that my life is better using my TV as a dumb screen that’s connected to a PC and then using Steam Big Picture for games and Jellyfin for media.

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      10 months ago

      After various trial and error, not to mention irritation, I have determined that this is the way. It’s what I did in the dark ages back in the day (with a Pentium 3 that had enough hardware acceleration to play DVD’s!) and it’s what I do once more. By hook or by crook, one way or another you’re guaranteed to be able to retain complete control over a PC even if that ultimately means you have to install some flavor of Linux on the fucking thing.

      You can get a perfectly capable media center PC for very little money if you don’t need it to be able to run AAA games, which in my case I don’t. Even the various nanocomputer boards like one of the beefier Raspberry Pi’s or any of its myriad competitors can do the job these days, fit in a tiny enclosure, make no noise, and consume very little power.

      Fuck all the Chromecasts, Fire sticks, Roku boxes, Apple TV’s, and other sundry and bullshit devices of the world.

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        10 months ago

        Nvidia SHIELD is still ok, because it’s Android TV, and you can install custom launchers on Android. Therefore no ads on your home screen.

        Granted, Nvidia is letting the SHIELD line twist in the wind, and the most recent model is from 2019, but it’s not outmoded just yet. I’ll still be using mine for a number of years.

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          10 months ago

          The shield is great for the reasons you mention here. I use primal launcher and have a custom home screen experience without annoying ads.

          The shield also outputs music over HDMI without resampling, which makes it awesome for my digital music listening, except the app support is lame.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah unfortunately Android TV is neglected versus Roku and Firestick and so on, but most major apps are there, and you can sideload shit.

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          10 months ago

          That sounds like it’s determined by the game developer and has nothing to do with steam.

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            10 months ago

            It is, but steam does have its own form of advertising. Their front page is all ads for games and sales, go to your library there is ads for updates for your games.

            It just seems to be acceptable since it’s their ecosystem content, but it’s still ads for all intent and purposes.

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              10 months ago

              Yeah, for games. Ads for games on steam makes sense, you’re literally browsing a shop. You won’t see a random ad for a car or wtv on steam

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                Ads are ads, just because it from the same ecosystem is moot. I don’t need the steamdeck paraded in my face on every page I view. It’s ads

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                  10 months ago

                  Ads are ads, just because it from the same ecosystem is moot.

                  so should Steam not have any game discovery features? Is it bad for Steam to display “trending games” because it’s technically advertising them by showcasing them?

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                    10 months ago

                    If people bitch about ads, than they shouldn’t find those acceptable either. You can have a store and showcase products without the additional ads.

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                    10 months ago

                    That’s an apt comparison actually, since yeah stores do have ads as well as products….

                    Edit picture doesn’t seem to be working, here

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              10 months ago

              go to your library there is ads for updates for your games.

              I have no problem with patch notes

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                10 months ago

                Except it’s for any “game news”……, so if they are peddling another game of theirs, it shows up there as well. Or we are selling a plushie, it’s there in the same place. It’s not just patch notes dude… and never has been either.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I was getting fed up with apps and boxes said fuck it and am running a mac mini hooked up to a shitload of storage now and it’s been great. Plays media, works as a competent file server for said media, and emulates a bunch of console games. We don’t use anything else now.

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        10 months ago

        Isn’t Apple TV the most ad free box now? I’m still on Roku but I’ve read that Apple TV is equivalent to a Roku but without the ads.

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          10 months ago

          Unless you change the launcher on your Android TV box, Apple TV is the most ad free now. Unless you want to just hook a PC up to the TV anyway. Which can introduce codec and DRM issues if you want to use Netflix and Prime video from the PC.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah it probably is in terms of an off the shelf, purpose built option with no tinkering. They’re pretty snappy as well. Decent hardware in there it seems.

          We have an ATV but our wireless network is kinda shit and we kept having connectivity issues between the ATV and the Plex server we were running on the Mini so we just went all in on running the Mini as the media player and Plex server in one to avoid it. Bonus was that we now have a very capable console game emulator hooked up to the TV too. Also we just ditched our last streaming subscription so all we were using the ATV for was the Plex app.

          It’s a bit overkill but I will say as a server and emulator the new apple silicon minis are great. Zero fan noise ever and they sip electricity and run really cool.

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      10 months ago

      I’ve been doing this for a decade.

      Highly recommend it. The only thing some people don’t like is using a keyboard and mouse on the couch, but there are endless solutions for that.

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        10 months ago

        I have a little mini keyboard/trackpad controller. Primarily just use the directional pad and media controls to navigate Plex, but if I need to pop into a web browser or whatever, it works great.

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        10 months ago

        Actually…that’s the sticking point at my house. I’m ok with mouse keyboard, but my wife and kids are not.

        Still trying to find a remote that will suit that use case.

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        10 months ago

        I have like four or five Logitech K400 keyboards, they’ve got a touchpad and they’re super inexpensive!

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          9 months ago

          Not the OP, but I have been getting a bug where I select a show/movie to watch in the roku app, and instead of playing it will exit out to the list of shows/movies menu. These same shows work just fine in the app on a google android TV, or on a computer