Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is Microsoft's new data collection service - gHacks Tech News
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Proton Mail says that the new Outlook app for Windows is a privacy nightmare for users, as the app shares the data with advertisers.
  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    90·
    10 months ago

    It also sends your IMAP credentials to their servers and receives the mail there, it’s not done locally like the older versions.

  • Einar@lemm.eeEnglish
    57·
    10 months ago

    Kinda OT, but writing about privacy and then presenting an abysmal way to opt out of 160+ trackers is pure, hypocritical, rich irony.

    Yes, I’m talking to you, ghacks.net.

  • Poutinetown@lemmy.caEnglish
    14·
    10 months ago

    Any outlook alternative that doesn’t look pre-dotcom? I really liked the Microsoft Mail app for its simplicity and the ability to have multiple inboxes, it’s a shame it is being replaced by outlook.

    • sab@kbin.social
      25·
      10 months ago

      Thunderbird still isn’t too much of a looker, but it got a lot better recently after they added the vertical layout and made a bunch of smaller improvements. I’ve been using it for a few months now (after having avoiding it for maybe a decade), and I’m pretty enthusiastic about it.

      • Poutinetown@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        I tried using it a while back but went back to Mail app. Will try again, esp since I’m planning to move to Ubuntu as the main os.

        • sab@kbin.social
          2·
          10 months ago

          Good luck! Aesthetically I find Geary to be the best client for GNOME, but Thunderbird has more advanced features and broader support. :)

      • jasep@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        I’ve been looking at options for my older clients as MS has been pushing this new Outlook client. Thunderbird is unfortunately fugly compared to more modern looking apps. I haven’t been successful transitioning any of those older folks to using Thunderbird as it’s too different for them.

        I’ve been rolling back the Outlook installs but it’s just a bandaid. I’d love to hear that’s there’s a comparable replacement to the W10 mail app.

      • Thorned_Rose@kbin.social
        1·
        10 months ago

        There’s also Betterbird, a fork of Thunderbird which retains some user-liked features that Mozilla removed as well as some bug fixes.

    • ulkesh@beehaw.orgEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      Spark, Mailbird, eM Client, Mailspring.

      Most of the modern ones do store certain information on servers, though. Spark and Mailbird both do. Mailspring does as well if I recall correctly.

      Most modern mail app developers seem to think that it’s more important to do search indexing and account storage on a server for ease of use, and expect inherent trust, foregoing all sense of real privacy under the veil of “we’re not evil, we promise.”

      I’ve yet to find an email client that has a good modern look and feel, but doesn’t try to use server-side storage for some UX convenience factor.

      I want the look and feel and mail host integrations of Spark (OAuth, like GMail, or preconfigs of hosts like iCloud) with the dumb-pipe-ness of Thunderbird. That’s the email unicorn I’m after.

  • ares35@kbin.social
    13·
    10 months ago

    uninstall the ‘new’ outlook app and use the ‘old’ mail app if you must. can at least do that, until they forcibly remove the old one and migrate users.

    the new-look thunderbird is ok, as is emclient (proprietary but free-to-use version is available).

      • ulkesh@beehaw.orgEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Exactly. I mean there are numerous mail applications for Windows. We’re not limited to just mail apps from Microsoft.