Iranian state television on Tuesday afternoon urged the country’s public to remove the messaging app WhatsApp from their smart phones, alleging without offering any evidence the app gathered user information to send to Israel
Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive and not have to stay covered up and unable to move around or do anything eithout a man and don’t support child marriage.
Hope this distinction helps!
To be clear fuck Israel they started this shit with Iran and I dont support it. But for you to say Iran isn’t authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.
How dare you criticize sharia in a lemmy.ml community you liberul??? The only thing that Iran is guilty of out of all the stuff that you listed is that they have mandatory clothing laws, but it’s really just a cultural choice really, you’re just brainwashed by the West’s Divine Secular Absolutism which allows people to dress… freely😱😱😱. And 9 y.o. children getting married isn’t a state policy you propagandist! It’s just legal, that doesn’t make it a state policy now does it?
I hope with the replies of Lemmy’s beautiful Erdoganists, you have come to realize that Iran isn’t a shithole Yet Another Middle Eastern Reactionary Shariah, it’s a Far-Left Utopian Theocracy.
out of these things you said, so far iran is guilty of only requiring women to stay covered and, to a degree, child marriage (it’s not a state policy, but marriage with girls as young as 9 years old is legal). as far as i know women in iran can drive (the last country where women were not allowed to drive was US ally saudi arabia) and are free to move around, work, study and such, notwithstanding the challenges that women face there (legal discrimination and the oppression that they suffer just by living in a capitalist country).
however, the liberation of women in iran won’t come imposed by other nation states, especially the western capitalist ones, and certainly won’t come as a result of a war against israel. they don’t give a damn about the iranian people, be they women, queer, religious or ethnic minorities. the sionist establishment just want anyone that menace their grip over middle east off their necks, and that’s what the iranian bourgeoisie are doing right now.
if you ask me what i think would be better, the working classes of both countries would team up to seize their military apparatuses and turn them against their elites. if that’s not possible, anything that hurts western imperialism gives the world a small victory, regardless of whoever achieves them. we can take care of whoever punches the west later.
Of course you focus on women because that’s the desirable group of objects of which you most desire, so you project your desires on to “helpless”, “hapless” women who need your “civilized” and “noble” ass “saving” from these “dirty barbaric orcs”.
Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive
Women can drive in Iran.
not have to stay covered up
As opposed to Europeans depriving women of their dignities and forcing them to stay as uncovered as possible?
I deliberately did that to basically demonstrate Western chauvinism in its rawest form. It’s greater magnitudes more fucked up than anything chauvinists blab about. Also what the fuck is California lol.
I only brought it up because I know in the US marrage laws are often the same or lower than out age of consent laws (from wikipedia) so I think the marrage laws are more damning, atleast in the US
I have never seen evidence that women are not allowed to drive, and I have had Iranians tell me the contrary. IRNA Irans state news if it was not down from likely DDOS I would show you posted an immage of one of the dead from Israels attack, was a women without a head covering, agian there is no evidence I can find that it is a law, just a large cultural preference. Same think with a women in Iran being dependent on a man, I have seen no evidence for this outside of the Western press.
I just want to ask a clarification, are you saying anti-child marriage is a bad thing???
But for you to say Iran isn’t authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.
We are not ignorant of the facts, but you are ignorant of your carrying water for Western imperialism. Which is understandable thanks to a lifetime of propaganda, but it’s never too late to stop.
Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive and not have to stay covered up and unable to move around or do anything eithout a man and don’t support child marriage.
Hope this distinction helps!
To be clear fuck Israel they started this shit with Iran and I dont support it. But for you to say Iran isn’t authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.
How dare you criticize sharia in a lemmy.ml community you liberul??? The only thing that Iran is guilty of out of all the stuff that you listed is that they have mandatory clothing laws, but it’s really just a cultural choice really, you’re just brainwashed by the West’s Divine Secular Absolutism which allows people to dress… freely😱😱😱. And 9 y.o. children getting married isn’t a state policy you propagandist! It’s just legal, that doesn’t make it a state policy now does it?
And you’re wrong!!! Women are allowed to drive in Iran. They just can’t leave the country or anything without her husband’s permission, and make sure that her hijab is not loose or she might get killed by state police.
I hope with the replies of Lemmy’s beautiful Erdoganists, you have come to realize that Iran isn’t a shithole Yet Another Middle Eastern Reactionary Shariah, it’s a Far-Left Utopian Theocracy.
TLDR: Just switch to Lemmy.World’s c/privacy ffs
out of these things you said, so far iran is guilty of only requiring women to stay covered and, to a degree, child marriage (it’s not a state policy, but marriage with girls as young as 9 years old is legal). as far as i know women in iran can drive (the last country where women were not allowed to drive was US ally saudi arabia) and are free to move around, work, study and such, notwithstanding the challenges that women face there (legal discrimination and the oppression that they suffer just by living in a capitalist country).
however, the liberation of women in iran won’t come imposed by other nation states, especially the western capitalist ones, and certainly won’t come as a result of a war against israel. they don’t give a damn about the iranian people, be they women, queer, religious or ethnic minorities. the sionist establishment just want anyone that menace their grip over middle east off their necks, and that’s what the iranian bourgeoisie are doing right now.
if you ask me what i think would be better, the working classes of both countries would team up to seize their military apparatuses and turn them against their elites. if that’s not possible, anything that hurts western imperialism gives the world a small victory, regardless of whoever achieves them. we can take care of whoever punches the west later.
The Enlightened Centrist has entered the chat!
Of course you focus on women because that’s the desirable group of objects of which you most desire, so you project your desires on to “helpless”, “hapless” women who need your “civilized” and “noble” ass “saving” from these “dirty barbaric orcs”.
Women can drive in Iran.
As opposed to Europeans depriving women of their dignities and forcing them to stay as uncovered as possible?
Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn’t exactly the liberation I was longing for
Palestinian women detail Israeli sexual assaults in Kamal Adwan raid
Iranian women can move around freely, it was definitely a much bigger case then for sure, but nowadays it’s literally a non-issue…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe
One nitpick on your post, you posted the age of concent not the age of allowable marrage, in in some places those are diffrent numbers
I deliberately did that to basically demonstrate Western chauvinism in its rawest form. It’s greater magnitudes more fucked up than anything chauvinists blab about. Also what the fuck is California lol.
I only brought it up because I know in the US marrage laws are often the same or lower than out age of consent laws
(from wikipedia) so I think the marrage laws are more damning, atleast in the US
I have never seen evidence that women are not allowed to drive, and I have had Iranians tell me the contrary. IRNA Irans state news if it was not down from likely DDOS I would show you posted an immage of one of the dead from Israels attack, was a women without a head covering, agian there is no evidence I can find that it is a law, just a large cultural preference. Same think with a women in Iran being dependent on a man, I have seen no evidence for this outside of the Western press.
I just want to ask a clarification, are you saying anti-child marriage is a bad thing???
We are not ignorant of the facts, but you are ignorant of your carrying water for Western imperialism. Which is understandable thanks to a lifetime of propaganda, but it’s never too late to stop.