• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Hello community, this thread is going in places a community shouldn’t go. Remember to hate the argument, not the user. There are also people that said things on the fence that seemed to be making up arguments or trying to start arguments. I temp banned you.

    I didn’t catch them all, feel free to report if it bugs you. I’ll take a look.

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    3 months ago

    Generally true though. Society robs us of all joy on purpose. Can’t have shit as a man, because that looks kind of gay.

    I’m getting all the stuff society does not want me to.

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    God forbid my place only has the bare essentials I need to live happy (big ass tv / PS5 / folding chair)

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    Maybe the dude was just… you know.

    Poor.

    Came from an environment that was usually a mess, chaotic, disordered, and he was genuienly impressed by how simple things, in order, can give a significant sense of safety and stability.

    Maybe he’d never seen that before, maybe he had no model of a tidy and peaceful living space.

    The same scenario could happen with anyone, of any sex or gender.

    Man, broad societal levels of narcissism are just off the fucking charts these days… its the literal opposite of solidarity, of empathy.

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      Or maybe he was just being nice? I can’t imagine being invited to friend’s new house and not giving compliments unless im like worried about them moving into an unsafe situation.

    • Growing up my house was always trashed. Parents with depression and full time jobs don’t leave much time and energy for cleaning up, and there’s only so much children without guidance can do.

      So once I had my own defined space, it was basically minimalist to expedite cleaning. I didn’t start getting more stuff, even clothes, until my partner moved in.

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        Me growing up, it wasn’t quite that bad for myself, but some of my neighbors were from… way more fucked up families.

        They had basically this exact same ‘Wow.’ moment, just… coming over, and seeing that… order was possible, things could be put basically back in place after use, etc.

        They had no previous concept of it.

        I remember going over to one of their houses once and literally stepping in dogshit, inside.

        They just… forgot to let the dog out, I guess. Regularly enough that this was annoying but basically normal.

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      you gauged that shes lesbian from.a.single tweet, are you telekinetic?

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        a lady with the display name “ex-bisexual” making fun of someone she described as a “straight dude”, then went all to say that “dudes are so lame and pathetic”… i felt like it was pretty obvious, but i’m a gay guy so i might be more tapped in to this kind of thing than most

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          and why does it matter that hes a straight man and shes an exbisexual woman?

          imagine A invited B to their house, then B said “wow this house is nice, I like x, y and z about this, its so nice!” and then A insulted B on social media, and called them pathetic, and that they needed a mother or servant to care for them if this is “nice” for them

          would A be in the right or the wrong?

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    The left: “We have absolutely no idea why young men are drifting to the right in droves. No clue. It must be that they are evil and want to preserve their male privilege! It couldn’t be our own actions and how we treat them, no way!”

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    I keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

    Like, yes, there’s definitely a strong toxic subset of men, but most of use are just… normal?

    I’m in my mid 30s, when the women aren’t around we’re mostly talking about kids (those who have them), hockey, finances, house stuff, and weird health issues. Depending on the group, how stupid politics/government shit is lately.

    I don’t know. It feels like the toxicity that came for incels is coming at women hard these last few years. Reddit really pushes this stuff lately.

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      keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

      Because there are groups specifically circulating ragebait to radicalize young and impressionable men into right winged radicalism. People see this all over the internet, but what do you see in real life? In my experience I have seen plenty of examples of casual misogyny in real life, I’ve never really seen any form of “misandry” in person.

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        I see a lot more Misandry in real life than say 15 years ago. A lot of it is very straight up and said as if there is nothing wrong with what they’re saying and its just a fact. Some examples off the top of my head are “short men are disgusting” “men are ruining the world” “we should just kill all men” “I hate that im attracted to men” and then plenty of things that are just attacking innocent things men do like their hobbies

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          yes.

          all you have to do is flip the genders, and it’s hate speech. imagine guys going on about how short women are disgusting and unworthy of them… they would be considered horrible people.

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            If all you do is flip the genders then you’re ignoring the context - power and history.

            There’s a difference between punching up and punching down.

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              No. Power and history don’t matter in personal relationships. We are only responsible for ourselves as individuals.

              Power and history only matter at the institutional level. Stop mistaking institutional issues, for individual’s behaviors. They are not at all linked.