Dude you mix up so many things having nothing to do with intelligence. Consciousness? No. Continuity? No. Awareness (what does that even mean for you in this context)?
Intelligence isn’t to be human, it’s about making rational decisions based on facts/knowledge, and even an old VCR has a tiny bit of it programmed into it.
In the dame way a fist full of dice can make decisions; sure.
facts
If its programmed to run a script to do a google search and cite the first paragraph of wikipedia; sure. That function is basically eliza with an api call.
knowledge
Okay, sketch on what this actually means, but every answer i can think of, none of which im strongly committed to: still no.
Its a bullshit machine. Like recognizes like, but it can’t do anything else. If you think its intelligent, that’s because you are not.
Edit: And im really disappointed. I kind of always wanted a computer friend. I would adore the opportunity to midwife whole new forms of intelligence. That sounds really fucking cool. It’s the kind of thing i dreamed of as a kid, and this shit being sold as my childhood aspirations is blackpilling as fuck. I think the widespread acceptance of the bullshit sales pitch, and fact it means we’re less likely to get the real thing, has lead me to a lot of much more anti-human opinions than i used to have.
You’re throwing around a lot of assumptions IMO. One seems to be that intelligent is some sort of special human-only thing, like friendship or IDK. It is of course not. Neither is it human, conscious or has feelings of course.
Also, you can learn a lot from AI, like you can learn a lot from the internet (PCs hooked together, nothing more) with the difference the AI nowadays emulates a human to a certain degree.
But you should work on your anger issues dude no need to getting riled up like that, not a good way to start the weekend IMO.
Traditional code, yes. For some definitions of rational. This is the way to make it not be that.
throwing around a lot if assumptions
No, i understand things. I know the idea is foreign to you, but i do have some relevant domain knowledge. I have actually looked at the underlying technology, i have a basic understanding of math and computer science and philosophy of mind, and any of the three, separately, expose this as bullshit.
you can learn a lot from “ai”!
You can learn a lot from the bible, reading tea leaves, or listening to your friend’s schizophrenic uncle when he’s off his meds and into your friend’s mushrooms, too.
Edit: i would genuinely love to argue philosophy and ‘what is intelligence’, but none of the advocates of this technology are smart enough to even try to understand what that is, much less articulate and argue the concept.
It’s all just ‘nuh uh! It’s totally my friend! You haters just dont understand!’ Like a sicker dumber version of the arguments i had about nft’s five years ago. Fuck im sick of being earnest. I get more coherent responses and feel less like im shouting into the void when i just think of the dumbest shit i can possibly say and post that.
You sound like a teenager (because of the anger, why all the insults?) who just started to scrape the surface of AI (because you have yet to show some “domain knowledge”, metely looking at the underlying tech is for sure not enough) as for philosophy you seem to be right, you only have basic understandings.
If you actually wanted to discuss, you could even learn something, but I guess that is not necessary for someone as knowledgeable as you.
Nope. There’s no cognition, no cognitive functions at all in LLMs. They are incapable of understanding actions, reactions, consequences and outcomes.
Literally all it’s doing is giving you a random assortment of words that vaguely correlate to indicators that scored highly for the symbols (ideas/intents) that the prompt you entered contained.
Literally that’s fucking it.
You’re not “talking with an AI” you’re interacting with an LLM that is an amalgam of the collective responses for every inquiry, statement, reply, response, question, etc… That is accessible on the public Internet. It’s a dilution of the “intelligence” that can be derived from what everyone on the Internet has ever said, and what that cacophony of mixed messages, on average, would reply with.
The reason why LLMs have gotten better is because they’ve absorbed more data than previous attempts and some of the outlying extremist messages have been carefully pruned from the library, so the resultant AI trends more towards the median persons predicted reply, versus everyone’s voice being weighed evenly.
It only seems like “AI” because the responses are derived from real, legitimate human replies that were posted somewhere on the Internet at some point in time.
Dude you mix up so many things having nothing to do with intelligence. Consciousness? No. Continuity? No. Awareness (what does that even mean for you in this context)?
Intelligence isn’t to be human, it’s about making rational decisions based on facts/knowledge, and even an old VCR has a tiny bit of it programmed into it.
It literally cannot do that
In the dame way a fist full of dice can make decisions; sure.
If its programmed to run a script to do a google search and cite the first paragraph of wikipedia; sure. That function is basically eliza with an api call.
Okay, sketch on what this actually means, but every answer i can think of, none of which im strongly committed to: still no.
Its a bullshit machine. Like recognizes like, but it can’t do anything else. If you think its intelligent, that’s because you are not.
Edit: And im really disappointed. I kind of always wanted a computer friend. I would adore the opportunity to midwife whole new forms of intelligence. That sounds really fucking cool. It’s the kind of thing i dreamed of as a kid, and this shit being sold as my childhood aspirations is blackpilling as fuck. I think the widespread acceptance of the bullshit sales pitch, and fact it means we’re less likely to get the real thing, has lead me to a lot of much more anti-human opinions than i used to have.
A computer cannot make a rational decision?
It’s literally the only thing it does.
You’re throwing around a lot of assumptions IMO. One seems to be that intelligent is some sort of special human-only thing, like friendship or IDK. It is of course not. Neither is it human, conscious or has feelings of course.
Also, you can learn a lot from AI, like you can learn a lot from the internet (PCs hooked together, nothing more) with the difference the AI nowadays emulates a human to a certain degree.
But you should work on your anger issues dude no need to getting riled up like that, not a good way to start the weekend IMO.
Well cheers anyways!
Traditional code, yes. For some definitions of rational. This is the way to make it not be that.
No, i understand things. I know the idea is foreign to you, but i do have some relevant domain knowledge. I have actually looked at the underlying technology, i have a basic understanding of math and computer science and philosophy of mind, and any of the three, separately, expose this as bullshit.
You can learn a lot from the bible, reading tea leaves, or listening to your friend’s schizophrenic uncle when he’s off his meds and into your friend’s mushrooms, too.
Edit: i would genuinely love to argue philosophy and ‘what is intelligence’, but none of the advocates of this technology are smart enough to even try to understand what that is, much less articulate and argue the concept.
It’s all just ‘nuh uh! It’s totally my friend! You haters just dont understand!’ Like a sicker dumber version of the arguments i had about nft’s five years ago. Fuck im sick of being earnest. I get more coherent responses and feel less like im shouting into the void when i just think of the dumbest shit i can possibly say and post that.
If everyone around you seems to be an idiot, …
You sound like a teenager (because of the anger, why all the insults?) who just started to scrape the surface of AI (because you have yet to show some “domain knowledge”, metely looking at the underlying tech is for sure not enough) as for philosophy you seem to be right, you only have basic understandings.
If you actually wanted to discuss, you could even learn something, but I guess that is not necessary for someone as knowledgeable as you.
Youre right, i dont actually know anything. Enlighten me, wise master.
without irony
Nothing in that suggssts intelligence.
Learn and you will see.
Nope. There’s no cognition, no cognitive functions at all in LLMs. They are incapable of understanding actions, reactions, consequences and outcomes.
Literally all it’s doing is giving you a random assortment of words that vaguely correlate to indicators that scored highly for the symbols (ideas/intents) that the prompt you entered contained.
Literally that’s fucking it.
You’re not “talking with an AI” you’re interacting with an LLM that is an amalgam of the collective responses for every inquiry, statement, reply, response, question, etc… That is accessible on the public Internet. It’s a dilution of the “intelligence” that can be derived from what everyone on the Internet has ever said, and what that cacophony of mixed messages, on average, would reply with.
The reason why LLMs have gotten better is because they’ve absorbed more data than previous attempts and some of the outlying extremist messages have been carefully pruned from the library, so the resultant AI trends more towards the median persons predicted reply, versus everyone’s voice being weighed evenly.
It only seems like “AI” because the responses are derived from real, legitimate human replies that were posted somewhere on the Internet at some point in time.
Not very different from the human brain then 🤷🏼♀️, with the exception of qualia we’re just like that.
And cognitive functions are just nerves triggering other nerves and so on, just like computers’ bits & instructions…
Not very different from a human brain except in every way we can measure.
Finish highscool lol
It’s so funny typing with that much authority and being completely wrong still.
You’re talking about your own post? Because it sure doesn’t contain anything valuable.
You got owned bro just walk away.
Oh no, I got “owned”, what am I going to do 😂