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So slavery as indentured servitude is the American future. Way to “new model” the old model.

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    The USSR didn’t have any limits to choosing an employment

    You were distributed to a place by the state after finishing your education. If you left that place too soon, you’d be frowned upon and that’d be mirrored in your labor book (USSR had such a document, basically a dossier documenting your whole history of employment with characteristics, you could get such a “flattering” characteristic by a superior not liking you that you’d never be accepted to a good place after, and you couldn’t refuse or lose a record in your labor book).

    and people weren’t forced to work anywhere.

    Being unemployed for too long was literally, seriously, illegal in the USSR. Google for “тунеядство”.

    People with something really bad in their labor books (say, dissidents) or some other necessary documents (being German after the war, being Jewish in a wrong period of time) had problems finding a place that would accept them, and would sometimes be prosecuted for being unemployed (that was usually informal employment, because you still had to eat something).

    But in general yes, some kind of employment was always possible. Dying from hunger or being homeless was almost ruled out. Most of the population lived in some sort of “acceptable poverty” - conditions very bad by US measure, but with the previous correction. That’s sort of one good thing that most people from ex-USSR agree on.

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      Sorry to reply late.

      You were distributed to a place by the state after finishing your education

      Only really true for higher education. It was seen as a sort of “social payment” in exchange for the free education. Better than tuition loans IMO.

      labor book (USSR had such a document)

      Uhhh… Do you think that doesn’t exist in the west right now? What do you think the SCHUFA does in Germany? Do you seriously think high tech companies don’t have a gray-legal-area history of your employment? At least back then it was a thing you could check…

      you could get such a “flattering” characteristic by a superior not liking you

      …as opposed to capitalism, where you’ll be left unemployed and without a wage if your boss doesn’t like you. What do you prefer?

      Being unemployed for too long was literally, seriously, illegal in the USSR

      Housewives existed, what are you talking about?

      The only way to obtain an income in the Soviet Union was throughout work or throughout a pension (think widows, disabled, or retired people). This was by design, and it’s in my opinion a moral good. You don’t have any capitalist owner exploiting the profits generated by their workers. You have a system in which everyone contributes to the society. How is that not positive?

      German after the war, being Jewish in a wrong period of time) had problems finding a place that would accept them

      Colour me surprised: there were racist people in the mid-20th century?! I’m sure that’s exclusive to the Soviet Union!

      conditions very bad by US measure

      Tell that to the millions of unemployed and homeless in the USA.

      The average material conditions in the Soviet Union, a country that begun to industrialize in 1929, were worse than in the USA, the literal core of world colonialism and imperialism which relies on exploited labour all over the global south, which industrialised in the 19th century. Hmmm, I wonder why that was…