https://archive.is/wGp2F

So slavery as indentured servitude is the American future. Way to “new model” the old model.

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    20 days ago

    Come on man it took one google search to read about the centralized labour programs, liquidation of foreign ethnic groups, and militarization of labour. This isn’t even counting the estimated 10 million or so people in forced labour gulags.

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      it took one google search

      “It took one google search to find unsourced claims against the greatest geopolitical enemy of my country”

      centralized labour programs

      What exactly are you talking about?

      liquidation of foreign ethnic groups

      Nothingburger made up by the west. The greatest possible claim against any ethnic group is the relocation of some minority in Crimea (I think Tatars) in the context of WW2 as a result of the paranoia against nazis, nothing compared to the Japanese concentration camps in the US dedicated to one specific ethnicity.

      and militarization of labour

      Again, what do you mean?

      This isn’t even counting the estimated 10 million or so people in forced labour gulags

      At the height of the GULAG system, there were fewer prisoners than currently in the USA. Forced labour was a bad thing, I agree, but it was nothing compared to that of modern western countries such as the USA.

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        https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/253301 Centralized labour programs were enforced work on the civilian population to rapidly industrialize and catch up to Western nations in the 1930s. Since the labour was compulsory from the government, it is a forced labour program.

        https://www.academia.edu/11885029 Ethnic minorities within the Soviet Union were forced into sparcely populated areas in the interior for forced labour, mostly mining. At least 6 million people were affected by this.

        https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1921-2/militarization-of-labor/ Civilians were drafted into labour armies, forced work in remote locations, in order to rapidly industrialize. The labour armies would also oversee other forced labour programs.

        On your last point, the US currently has 1.8 million incarcerated people. In 1931, there were 2 million in gulags, and more in other forms of incarceration. Please lick the boots of a different country.

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          Literally the three examples you brought are wartime extreme measures, either in a war that took the lives of 27 million soviet citizens (WW2) or in a war against absolutism and tsarism in which 17 western countries invaded the RSFSR for the sin of being communist. Funny how you can’t find examples after the situation normalised in the Soviet Union and it stopped being under immediate threat of genocide at the hands of Nazis?

          the US currently has 1.8 million incarcerated people. In 1931, there were 2 million in gulags

          Sorry, my numbers were off by 10%. Still, we’re comparing the eve of WW2 and the process of collectivisation of land, to a period of relative quiet and global power by the US. Not relevant?

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      18 days ago

      And don’t forget the 20 million or so broken eggs needed to make that shit omelette in the first place.