“You mess with Luigi, you mess with New York!”

“You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!”

It makes complete sense if you work from the angle that Trump is a Russian plant working to destroy America from within.

Same here with plant milk in coffee. It gives you a ton of really yummy variety. I’ve accidentally had dairy milk put in my coffee, and every time I recognize it by how noticeably worse the coffee tastes.

Another one for me was nutritional yeast on popcorn. I mixed it into my usual popcorn seasoning, and popcorn legitimately isn’t as good to me now without nooch.

EDIT: sorry, not citizen, but nonetheless a legal green card holder who’s been determined to be here legally.

Garcia has never been convicted of criminal charges in the US or El Salvador

Also, you can’t, you know, legally deport a US citizen to an El Salvadorian gulag even if they had committed a crime. Trump here is trying to shift the Overton window from a discussion of if they’re a US citizen to if they’ve committed a crime (they haven’t, of course), and it’s fucking disgusting.

At this point, the only criminal I think who deserves to be sent to a deep, dark hole never to return is Mr. 34 Felonies himself.

EDIT: sorry, not citizen, but nonetheless a legal green card holder who’s been determined to be here legally.

From your source:

I cited 1© because it’s the one that actually makes any sense with what they were saying. I did read the entire thing, and yes, saying they were using sense 3 would very obviously be a bad-faith interpretation of what they were saying; that’s why I pointed to 1©.

In terms of “sentience” or “consciousness” these also cannot be applied black and white to animals or plants

True to an extent. The line is fuzzy. Plants aren’t sentient; we’re not doing this. Plants don’t have a nervous sytem and aren’t conscious. It’s a bad-faith attempt at equivocation not accepted by science. If we’re talking about animals, sure there’s a fuzzy line somewhere, but that fuzziness keeps getting moved back year after year. What we can say with certainty though is that that line isn’t around what a typical omnivorous diet eats such as cows, pigs, birds, etc. and hasn’t been for a very long time. There’s increasingly robust evidence for fish’s abililty to feel pain. I draw the line at no animals because I don’t know exactly where in the animal kingdom that line really is and so don’t feel comfortable choosing (and I have no interest in eating sponges), but rational minds can disagree when we’re talking about bivalves, about echnioderms, etc. However, yes, we can easily apply things like consciousness to animals like pigs and have been able to for well over a decade now.

There is [are*] animals which show a quite complex consciousness and there is [are*] animals, where we couldn’t observe these (yet).

Correct. For example, humans have quite a complex consciousness among the consciousnesses we’ve found (maybe some advanced civilization out there totally dwarves us; who knows). Meanwhile, sponges likely aren’t conscious, and we have zero evidence for their consciousness. Again, though, the most common land animals farmed for food are sentient, and it’s increasingly evident that’s also true of fish.

At the same time we see more and more examples of plants showing what could be called “pain” or “social life”.

Nope. Sorry, just nope. There is a wide scientific consensus that plants do not feel pain, let alone are conscious. The pseudoscientific discourse around antiveganism has begun turning away from health now that vegan diets are healthful and demonstrably confer substantial health benefits compared to omnivorous ones and away from the environment because climate change is demonstrably very real and caused in large part by animal ag and now toward “plant pain” because it’s just enough to give scientifically illiterate laypeople another excuse to bury their heads in the sand.

OP could have just talked about “animals” instead of “beings”. Talking in terms of “beings” only muddies the water both between plants and animals but also animals and humans.

Humans are animals. Objectively. Objectively Homo sapiens are hominids, which are primates, which are mammals, which are chordates, which are animals. We are separated from the genus Pan by about 7–9 million years of evolution. This is like saying that talking about “vehicles” only muddies the water between cars and my 1987 Chevy Malibu. That you’re expressing notions of plant pain and delineating humans biologically from animals really tells me you don’t understand biology. They shouldn’t change their language just because you don’t understand basic taxonomy.

And the latter is highly problematic, which is why we must not be careless with these words.

Why is treating a basic biological fact as factual in a completely neutral way (which you’re already weirdly extrapolating that they’re comparing humans to other animals? when in reality they’re just saying that non-human animals can be sentient?) problematic or careless?

Some Fascists work to infiltrate movements such as veganism or animal rights precisely with the goal to devalue human life through weakening the perception of value of human life over animal life.

Give me even the slightest shred of evidence that ecofascism is a serious problem that’s so prevalent in veganism it warrants such a prominent mention here (let alone one at all) and that it’s caused by treating other beings (I am going to use that word and use it proudly) as sentient/conscious or absolutely piss off with this fucking gutter trash. What the fuck are you fucking talking about trying to distract from the obvious ethical good of veganism through rhetorical whiplash to this nonsensical “um, actually, what about ecofascism?” Would you bring this up in a discussion about solar panels? “Um, just be careful not to talk about global warming or the spooky ecofascists might show up.”

I don’t think this is the case for OP

NO SHIT.

or the majority of people in these movements

Okay?

but they need to be vigilant against it.

Vigilant against what? Basic scientific literacy? My dude, my guy, veganism is one of the most leftist movements you can imagine which has the express intent of reducing suffering and unjust hierarchies. We’re constantly vigilant against fascism and refuse to let it infiltrate our spaces. I can think of few places other than an ancom protest rally that are more resilient to infiltration from fascists. I’m genuinely disgusted that your arguments were so flimsy that you felt the need to compare calling sentient animals “beings” to fascism.

They said “being”, not “living being”, so I think it can be safely assumed they’re talking about conscious life here (see Merriam-Webster’s definition 1©). Like I think we both know that they’re not talking about plants, but in an age where being vegan (especially in the first world) is easier than it’s ever been by a wide margin, where the overwhelming majority of people in the first world wouldn’t have to eat sentient life if they didn’t want to and live perfectly healthy (or often healthier) lives, and where it’s only continuing to become easier, more popular, and more widely understood to be healthful and ethically more sound, it’s a lot easier to quip “haha whaddabout plants dum-dum??” than to confront what they’re very obviously saying about eating sentient animals.

The Boston Herald is tabloid trash.

Also because, you know, if those agencies don’t have a need to know it, then you’re just making the data needlessly more vulnerable. I give it a year before the sensitive data of every US citizen is not only leaked (if it hasn’t happened already by a nation-state under the second Trump admin) but is leaked publicly.

And this boulder could generate huge amounts of energy if I pushed it up to the top of Mt. Kilimanjaro and let it roll down.

44 upvotes and 0 downvotes for a comment that doesn’t understand that energy density measurements like this tend to measure the useful energy of a system.

He secretly paid people to grind his POE2 character to become a top-leveled character and then claimed credit for it. Yes, he is pretending to know what he’s doing.

I was wondering why a certain word wasn’t showing up…

So the map is more accurately titled “How American Twitter users refer…”

four-mile-long*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ce_954P20I

Of some note is that the market was only allowed to tumble for two of those five days following the announcement of the tariffs. That almost assuredly makes a difference here.

This exactly. You need a reliable source of fuel for the baseline, which is where nuclear energy can supplant fossil fuels instead of or in addition to relying on batteries.

Huh? Modern nuclear power plants automatically stop the reaction. In addition to other safety features monitoring things like temperature, radiation, etc. for automatic shutoff, the rods are held in place via electromagnetism. In the event of a power loss, the reaction will stop because the rods fall out of place. (This may just be one type; other modern reactors have ways of automatically stopping the reaction in the event of a power loss.)

I hope this pressure leads to just getting rid of algorithms altogether.

And other things spoken by someone who never learned what an algorithm is.

Scratch a neoliberal…

In all seriousness, capitalism is exactly why we’re here right now. (That said, technocrit is an idiot with some of the dumbest takes on this site. They blanket basically everything as fascist/fascism-adjacent, and I’m not going to say The Economist promoted this, because they didn’t.)

Not only that, but we make it goddamn trivial for not just Wikipedia but for other Wikimedia projects. Doing this is just stealing without attribution and share-alike like the CC BY-SA 4.0 license demands and then on top of that kicking down the ladder for people who actually want to use Wikimedia and not the hallucinatory slop they’re trying to supplant it with. LLM companies have caused incalculable damage to critical thinking, the open web, the copyleft movement, and the climate.