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    2 months ago

    I don’t disagree with any single point that you’ve made. I agree with most of them.

    But you mentioned linux. Tell me again, Linus Torvald, was he employed under a capitalist country when he created linux? How about most of its contributors?

    Your point is easily defeated. Please make a better argument.


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    Well, no. Paying professors isn’t free. Some places just hide their salaries in their tax money. But sure. Everyone gets education (I agree with this). Some people choose to be artists and… I guess they just fend for themselves?

    Now, let’s be absurd. Pretend I’M a artist. I made a blank canvas, and I’m willing to sell it.



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    2 months ago

    No, and I never said that I did. Do I think that people are motivated to be educated and create things by capitalism? Yes, of course. It’s provably happened on both of our lifetimes.

    Does that make capitalism the best solution? No. But obviously you’re gonna need to provide more data against it to convince other people. This is a weak argument.



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    How will we educate those workers, in order to produce better things? I guess some “workers” will be smarter than others. More intelligent. Should we send those stupider workers to the fields? Make them work off their stupidity while the genius, better workers invent new machines?



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    …you do know what engineering is, right? It’s… Definitely not a magic ghost inhabiting halls. It’s learning physics, electronics, programming, and, well, engineering to create novel solutions to problems people have.

    My point is that capitalism, for all of its failures, does indeed sometimes produce better things. You unequivocally hating on it, for no discernable reason; I I can’t find a reason for that.




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    Okay, sure, I’ll play devil’s advocate. The engineering that goes into a single iPhone is unfathomable. It would take an entire lifetime of study to even try to produce something close.

    But Apple pays about a jillion engineers about a jillion dollars each, and so they’re able to create new iPhones every year or so. That was 100% powered by capitalism.

    Yeah, workers physically put the pieces together. Do you think any of them could design an iPhone without any help or reference? Or a single body to tie it all together?