• onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Sounds like management problem, not an engineering one, but management doesn’t have to pay: everybody else does. Typical.

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    Same will happen to other German car manufacturers. This is what happens if lobbyists and corrupt politicians wank each other off behind closed doors. No incentives to go with the times and trying to squeeze out as much money short term as possible

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    Good Fuck VW. My mom had an 86 Jetta and that thing was the biggest piece of junk on the road. and every time she took it to the dealer to get it fixed they would do the cheapest thing possible. I ended up taking to my local mechanic who fixed it properly for her.

    And also be wary of any good deals on some newer model VW’s. They got the court case cleared up where a bunch of cars got damaged by sea water and those vehicles which were supposed to have been sold as scrap are now on the road.

    • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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      I had a '16 eGolf, loved everything about it except the range. Eventually when my commute got longer I had to upgrade, would go for a 300mi eGolf any day, but they killed it in favor of the bland AF ID.4. No thank you.

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        I have a 2019 e-golf which has slightly better range, and I love it! The adaptive cruise and CarPlay make it an excellent commuter car.

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          It really truly is a great car! Fun to drive and the perfect size. After moving, however, my commute was landing me at home with 5 miles of range left, figured it’d only be a couple of years before that ran down to 0, so I upgraded before I had to deal with it. If VW still had an eGolf for sale, I would have picked it up without question.

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      Volkswagen has always been garbage, long before any “late stage capitalism” influences. They’re even worse than American cars (well, Chrysler is about as bad as VW). At least American companies embraced influences from Japan starting in the mid-70’s, with Ford and GM partnering with Japanese companies, bringing some of the quality influences in from them.

      I’ve worked on most brands since about 1975, VW has never changed quality. There’s a reason VW is a meme in the repair biz - their electrics are so bad they always have a light out/dim. Similar to Chrysler in this way - they market shiny/features, but the systems are poorly designed.

      Oddly Honda and Toyota don’t have these issues, even today.

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      Fuck me so much this.

      I’ve owned three generations of Seat cars (a popular European VW group brand).

      This generation is absolutely atrocious. I’ve honestly got an almost endless list of issues with it - it just does not work. It crashes. It beeps. It blares. It can’t. It won’t. Doesn’t open. Doesn’t lock. Disconnects. Connects when it shouldn’t. Charges for features that seem like they are MVP. Everything is touch. The few things that aren’t aren’t in the right place. In every single way it’s awful.

      I will never buy another VW group car and I tell everyone I can how awful it is.

      Fuck around and find out indeed.

      • philpo@feddit.de
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        Got exactly the same story with Skoda. Highlights were “Speed display crapping out mid journey - through Switzerland” or “Steering wheel getting loose”. Funnily enough the part that always worked without any issue was the EV part of the PHEV.

        Unofficially our (very good) local dealer told us that VW did reduce QA, especially chip wise.

        In the end we sued them, they tried to bully us and then they gave in two days before the trial date - we could return the car. Now we drive Hyundai and Volvos exclusively.

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    they got billions to invest into new drive technologies and didn’t

    they have really tight contracts with all of their suppliers but didn’t act in time to get the electric vehicle suppliers into similar contracts

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The news organization saw a post on VW’s intranet quoting CEO Thomas Schaffer, who blamed low productivity and high costs for the impending cuts.

    “With many of our pre-existing structures, processes and high costs, we are no longer competitive as the Volkswagen brand,” Schaffer said at a staff meeting.

    EVs remain significantly more expensive than an equivalent car with a four-cylinder engine, an effect that’s more pronounced in the market segments VW serves.

    Lackluster products haven’t helped—an ambitious plan by VW Group to master its software destiny has become a chaotic mess, delaying new vehicles in the process.

    Feedback about the company’s new capacitive multifunction steering wheel was so overwhelmingly negative that last year, Schaffer promised to ditch the design.

    VW’s board member in charge of human resources told staff that it will look at partial or early retirement agreements but that the majority of the $10.9 billion in cuts would come from savings other than job losses.


    The original article contains 315 words, the summary contains 158 words. Saved 50%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • nicetriangle@kbin.social
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    I really liked how the car drove but after owning a 2001 Jetta I’d probably never buy another VW. That car had the worst quality control of any car I’ve ever seen. It was insane how much stuff broke in that car. I’ll stick with Japanese cars if I was in the market for one.

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      That’s how I feel about my 2010 Tiguan. It is just such a piece of shit. I like how it handles but every other day something on its breaking or the electricals acting up. Never again

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        Yeah it was crazy what went wrong in this thing in the space of a few years before we got rid of it… Just off the top of my head:

        • Pulled too close to one of those parking dividers and the bumper barely scuffed up onto it. All the plastic attachment clips in the front bumper snapped and the bumper sagged a couple inches from there out. They quoted me something like $500 to replace some plastic clips.
        • Fuel injectors sprayed gas onto the engine block causing smoke to come out from under the hood
        • Recall on the turn signals
        • Fabric in the roof of the car bubbled up and sagged down
        • Labels on the center console (radio/climate control/etc) started peeling off
        • Lid of the center console broke
        • Glove compartment door broke
        • Stereo broke
        • Cupholders broke
        • Driver side door speaker went

        There was some other stuff too but it’s been a while now. My last car was an Accord that I had for many years and that thing was rock solid. I still miss it but had to sell it when I moved out of the country.

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      VW quality has been shit for decades. Having worked on most every brand of car, you couldn’t give me a VW.

      There’s a meme about VWs that you can’t get all lights to work simultaneously. There’s always one that’s out/dim, because their electrics suck.

      An example of the nonsense they do: on one model the AC circuit had an ecu in the drivers door, which also controlled the door locks and windows. So if your door lock controller died, so did your AC.

      No reason for this, there wasn’t any automation between windows and AC. Just crappy VW design.

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    At least they have the id.buzz coming. I’ve been waiting to replace my minivan, but so far nothing is better than the wearing out one we have.

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    I know this is more about switching from ICE to electric, but this is kinda hilarious

    Feedback about the company’s new capacitive multifunction steering wheel was so overwhelmingly negative that last year, Schaffer promised to ditch the design. Meanwhile, much of the range—both electric and gas-powered—is saddled with temperature and volume controls that are touch-sensitive but not backlit, making them all but impossible to use at night.

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    Surprise ! workers pay the price for the 30 billion they spunked on fines and compensation for cheating diesel emissions.