Compared to bluetooth :

  • 60% lower power consumption
  • Six times higher data transmission speed
  • 1/30th the latency
  • 7 dB improvement anti-interference for a more stable connection
  • Twice the coverage distance, and
  • 10 times more network connections

Notice it’s not talking of compression yet, but raw connection performance.

Due to the US Huawei ban, the tech won’t arrive to the US yet. Nor maybe ever until something is done.

https://consumer.huawei.com/za/community/details/Huawei-Nearlink-launched-new-wireless-technology-far-ahead-of-Bluetooth/topicId_276306/

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    So this is not too hard to achieve if you chose different frequency. But few things to consider.

    • 60% lower power consumption: doable since they don’t have backwards compatibility baggage, but still questionable figure;
    • six time transmission speed: achievable on higher frequency;
    • 1/30th of the latency: same on higher frequency;
    • 7dB improved: if no one is using the frequency yet, this is true;
    • twice the coverage: complete bullshit if you have six times transmission speed. In wireless communication speed almost always equals lower range because only one device can talk at a time;
    • 10 times more network connections: not with twice the coverage.

    But, there’s a huge number of issues and questions no one mentioned. Support at this point is literally zero, even if they push some devices with it, compatibility with your other devices is non-existent. Is the frequency approved across the world. There’s a reason why 2.4GHz was chosen for base WIFI and Bluetooth. It’s available everywhere. Is the standard open and how easily can one implement it. Software support, etc.

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      Well look at wifi vs bluetooth. Wifi and bluetooth both use 2.4ghz. But wifi has a lot more bandwidth on 2.4ghz. Maybe because it uses more channels (a bigger frequency range)?

      But there is room to improve bandwidth, even over distance. Tho how would they have done that, no idea. There is need for more time so devices with the tech can arrive on the market, and be tested.

      But also more time so more specialised content can be produced to inform us normal people.

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        WIFI has channels indeed and each channel has a higher bandwidth. But even then WIFI is close to same range as Bluetooth, at least in theory. WIFI routers are usually on 100mW or 150mW emission power. Bluetooth can get to these, but they almost always focus on power consumption rather than bandwidth and range. Not to mention with WIFI you have an array of antennas to chose from, amplifiers, etc.

        Am almost always skeptical when new technology comes out. Look at ANT+ protocol, which was even popular at the time, but engineers switched to Bluetooth anyway. No matter how many issues you have with Bluetooth, its design is really easy to implement and program applications for.

        This new protocol would have to bring quite a bit of benefits to both users and engineers to become really popular and dethrone Bluetooth. And even then I doubt it would happen as easily.

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          Well for it to get a chance in the US where the other side of big tech is, it would need to be sold to another company than Huawei, or for the US to relax the ban.

          I have no idea why the US banned Huawei so intensely other than blocking competition from China.

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    I’m skeptical about all the claims and 60% less power consumption. Usually to get greater range, you need to up the power consumption. I’m not a bluetooth/electromagnetic spectrum expert though, so maybe they figured something out with the modulation or something.

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      Seems really light on details. I couldn’t find anything searching around and find these numbers hard to believe. I feel like it’ll be something like you can have 60% lower power OR this other claim but not all the claims at the same time.

      Smells like marketing.

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    I’m skeptical of any claims when they’re only touted by the one selling it. I’ll wait to see if it actually gets implemented anywhere and is verified by a third party.

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    But is the connection speed good and riable?

    Shitty pairing or random reconnect slowness/issues have been my #1 complaint about Bluetooth for, oh, 15 years. It’s only barely gotten better in all that time.

    What I want is an experience like wired connections, where I just plug it in. Then it works. Immediately. Every time.

    Even as quick/reliable as wifi would be ok.

    I don’t give a shit about things like speed. Just reliability and decent audio quality.

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    So basically like a compromise between wifi & bluetooth?

    The thing is, people using bluetooth is not looking for raw performance. When they more performance, they’d go with wifi. Wifi data transfer is a thing.

    Last but not least, it’s Huawei…

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      Very low latency would be a big deal for audio. It currently ranges from incredibly high to passable, depending on implementation.

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      Not really like that.

      Right now it’s not possible to connect a headset/headphone via wifi to a device other than some proprietary things.

      So a general competitor usable on all devices allowing more data transfer for more audio with less compression. I think it could be interesting.

      Not just because it would maybe be better. But because competition on a market is a good thing for the consumer. And push bluetooth maybe further than what it is.

      Tho if by some misunderstanding, the chip used isn’t compatible with bluetooth I’m not very sure… As brands would need to include 2 chips, which increases the cost.

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      I would certainly love Bluetooth to be higher bandwidth, for things like high-fidelity audio.

      Currently Bluetooth pairing usually works quite well on almost all devices. Conversely, wifi-based pairing is mostly a disaster. So much that even respected brands can’t get it right.

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        I sometimes control a high end camera through my phone. For basic controls it connects via Bluetooth but if you want live-shooting (you see what’s being captured on the phone) it switches to WiFi. It’s ALWAYS a massive pain in the ass, takes forever to connect, disconnects if the phone screen is off even just a few seconds, etc etc.

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    I’ve never had a bluetooth device that worked well and connected reliably, so “better than bluetooth” is not hard.

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    At least with some American corp. there’s a chance it’s not under the control of some government agency with free reign to abuse the data they’re collecting.

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    As long as it doesn’t use the 2.4GHz band I’m fine with it. I’m so done with Audio stuttering while using WiFi.